scottyboy Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 On 3/4/2016 at 9:00 PM, scottyboy said: Daesh/IS are denying he's dead and have provided some photos which sceptics have stated/shown (I'm not interested/well-informed enough to know which) are years old (if he were alive, he's hardly going to call a press conference and invite CNN, I guess). The US military/intelligence/officials seem convinced they hit and at least vegetebalised him in that airstrike, and that (or because) he literally hasn't been heard from since (seems they intercepted and listened in on his comms as a matter of course) that airstrike, before which they got last minute info about his whereabouts. Daesh have confirmed Al-Shishani dead, FWIW. http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/14/tbilisi-says-fight-will-go-on-after-slaying-of-georgian-isis-commander/?utm_content=buffer72807&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1118396368218797&id=100001453320521 Bonnie Brown bread, point me up please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsten Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Aw, Alan Vega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 On 25/1/2016 at 2:59 PM, Lemonade said: Scottyboy Bhumibol Adulyadej Fidel Castro Qaboos bin Said al Said Joker Robert Mugabe Sepp Blatter Nuon Chea Hun Sen Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Queen Elizabeth Prince Philip Pentti Linkola Vinnie Jones James Lovelock Abu Waheeb Abu Omar al-Shishani Abu Ali al-Anbari Don King Najib Razak Mahathir bin Mohamad Jimmy Carter Um, after Al-Shishani I thought to check up on the others. Abu Waheeb was killed in May: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/key-islamic-state-leader-killed-in-coalition-air-strike-in-iraqs/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Waheeb And Abu Ali al-Anbari (former 2nd-in-command) probably in March, May at the latest: http://www.vocativ.com/314411/isis-confirms-the-death-of-its-deputy-leader/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ali_al-Anbari 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted July 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Fuckers! I'll try and do an update tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Broonbreed Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Are ISIS personnel really celebrities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 I think they are at least as credible celebrities as dinosaur B-list wrestlers and country singers and 50s TV actors. If that's a serious question: my personal yardstick is whether there is a (long-standing) Wiki article and/or whether there is an obituary or news coverage in a major and/or respected media outlet. And they pass that by some way, One of those two was the second-in-command of the whole organisation/"state", not really just personnel. The other was a provincial leader and more like the Kim Kardashian of jihad; but again, seems he got more (UK certainly) press coverage than the other guy. I did some quick arithmetic and I think those 2 almost equalled Bigsby's whole score this year thus far (one those was either 29 or 30, only his year of birth is known, so on the boundary of two points bands); and the first (I think?) unnatural causes (other than Winehouse) bonuses; and finally some big multiple points payoff from, again, something other than terminal cancer victims. What's not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Broonbreed Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 It's not a serious question. I just think you're a massive cheat! Nah, jist jestin'. I'm just bitter that Franky Muniz is still breathing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Let's face facts, we're all just pissed off we didn't think of it first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted July 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 I think next year we should introduce a rule that a person must have their own Wikipedia page. Any objection to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsum_Fantastic Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 14 hours ago, Lemonade said: I think next year we should introduce a rule that a person must have their own Wikipedia page. Any objection to that? Couldn't you then just make one for your sick granny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) I think if it's a Wiki page then it needs to have been there for some agreed amount of time. It's easy to create a bogus Wiki page about anyone or anything, but not having it deleted is another thing. On the other hand, a Wiki page being allowed to stay up is usually just based on news coverage (for people; academic research for srs biz subjects) so again obituaries/media gloating might do essentially the same thing, without the same (small) possibility of manipulation. Edited July 18, 2016 by scottyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 I think Wikipedia is a better measure, no matter how minor the celebrity there will be a obituary for them somewhere. A local TV weatherman from Idaho, a washboard player in some long-forgotten skiffle band or a 1970s jobbing wrestler will have obituaries in the Idaho papers, a skiffle website or a wrestling new site. I've never created a Wiki page but I assume it gets checked no? I assume there are guidelines about how well known a person needs to be to have a Wikipedia page like there are with bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Broonbreed Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Perhaps we need to form some sort of death committee, or even a squad - if you prefer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lemonade said: I've never created a Wiki page but I assume it gets checked no? I assume there are guidelines about how well known a person needs to be to have a Wikipedia page like there are with bands. No. Well, yes... eventually. Assuming nothing has changed recently: one can create a page/article without anyone checking it (if you have an account; if for some insane reason you don't want to sign up for a free login, you then have to submit it for someone else to create). Sooner rather than later (probably) someone will in practice check it, and if it's plainly bullshit it'll probably be quickly deleted. Anything above plain bullshit (for topics like bands), it can actually be rather more messy to get something deleted. They are significantly stricter about biographies (of living people), though, since this: (I was going to explain it, but let's just link the - irony! - wiki article) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Seigenthaler_biography_incident . So maybe new articles on real people get checked; but I think all they've done is that edits to existing articles only go live immediately if it's someone with a 1 month old+ account (otherwise they have to be checked... by anyone with a 1 month+ old account), and that's it. Maybe I could've just googled the answer; either way I think Wiki is probably best, with some kind of length-of-time caveat. Edited July 18, 2016 by scottyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 If somebody wants to win the Aberdeen music dead pool enough to spend time creating wiki pages for z list celebrities I say let them have it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Broonbreed Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 An easier way, would be to just make a list of people who are already dead and change the date they died in Wikipedia. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Just realised I never sent in my list! Here it goes: Jesus Queen Victoria Isambard Kingdom Brunel Henry VIII Fingers crossed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Broonbreed Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Woah, he's good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005190/ Garry Marshall writer/director/producer of Happy Days, Mork & Mindy, Pretty Woman...etc. Points at last but why did it have to be Mr Marshall. Edited July 20, 2016 by Lucius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Definitely a points update required. I've been doing it within a day or two this year as well because I love my new spreadsheet so much I want to use it. But I got WWE 2K16 last week and that's taking up all my free time. Edited July 20, 2016 by Lemonade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colb Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 20 hours ago, Spoonie said: Just realised I never sent in my list! Here it goes: Jesus Queen Victoria Isambard Kingdom Brunel Henry VIII Fingers crossed!! I think you'll find that Jesus is alive in the hearts of millions... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 No points for Jesus until we see how the second coming pans out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 9 hours ago, Lucius said: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005190/ Garry Marshall writer/director/producer of Happy Days, Mork & Mindy, Pretty Woman...etc. Points at last but why did it have to be Mr Marshall. Why oh why wasn't it Scott Baio instead?! aside: when did he turn into such an asshole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colb Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, ca_gere said: Why oh why wasn't it Scott Baio instead?! aside: when did he turn into such an asshole? Charles in Charge - chilling proof that power corrupts. Edited July 20, 2016 by colb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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