Jaaakkkeee Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Yeah at this point Walt is meant to be the villain, that's the whole concept of the show. I heard an interview with Vince Gilligan where he said he has no sympathy for Walt anymore, and it's taken them by surprise that viewers still root for him.I was just about to mention that. Even the creator dislikes Walt. But I don't know, I still root for him. I want his plans to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/13/breaking-bad-no-real-women Hmm, what about Lydia? She scares the shit out of me... no way she's just going to just complain her way to the end of the series. Also, I think writing off Skyler as a bit of a stick in the mud is a bit unfair. She's hardly sat weeping in the corner all the time. Breaking Bad will hardly be remembered as a feminist masterpiece, but it is what it is I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I still like Walt. I kind of wanted him to live happily ever after, with Skyler and the kids, out of the trade, working at the carwash, secretly sitting on fat stacks of cash hidden under the floorboards. I guess that wouldn't make exciting TV though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Hmm, what about Lydia? She scares the shit out of me... no way she's just going to just complain her way to the end of the series. Also, I think writing off Skyler as a bit of a stick in the mud is a bit unfair. She's hardly sat weeping in the corner all the time. Breaking Bad will hardly be remembered as a feminist masterpiece, but it is what it is I suppose. I don't really agree with it entirely either, I posted it since it seemed relevant to the discussion about Skylar. Plus I found all the references to the holy trinity of television a bit silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJimF Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I loved Hank as a character the whole way through but I'm still rooting for Walt. But he's trapped Under the Dome?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Is the trinity Mad Men, The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad? People always bring up how the female characters are written as bitches in those. But no, each have strong females. Sure, the protaginists other half always seems to be a pain in the arse, but that's just how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Well that would be the AMC trinity I guess. The trinity named in the Guardian article is The Wire, The Sopranos and Mad Men. She suggests that Breaking Bad doesn't get a place because of its lack of strong female of the species characters. Fwiw I think she makes the 3 right choices but they should be joined by Deadwood and Twin Peaks in whatever five holy things would be called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Gold Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Huh, that's quite disappointing that he invokes the people suffering at street level. You don't really see a lot of meth heads on the programme... the only real damaged users I can remember are that family with the little kid way way back, and I think that was when Walt still had a bit of desperation to his situation. Likewise, I thought the somewhat jolly blue meth and the often kinda jaunty music soundtracking Walt and Jesse cooking the stuff were devices to distract the viewer from the fact that it's really such a bad product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 The whole point of Skylar's character (and part of what makes the show so great) is that despite it being this crazy eventful show where people cook meth, kill people, blow things up, etc... it's still very much set in the real world. Sure some of the characters are over the top and there's an element of fantasy to it, but we're not supposed to believe this is some alternate universe where anything goes. Skylar acts like you could imagine a real-life middle class suburban wife acting as she gets caught up in this inconceivably weird situation. She's as much a 'bitch' as Walter is a 'crazy cunt'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E.C Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 skylar hated walt doing what he did - took the kids/moved out etc, but as soon as he was "out" she agreed to a second honeymoon paid for with blood money. that is why i hate her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Yeah, when she first started laundering, although she was moaning that she couldn't launder that amount of money, you could see the lady boner in her eyes at that amount of cash. Then she uses it without his permission to help her boss and cover her own back. Hypocrit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) Was reading some stuff online, some great theories. The door that's on the floor as Walt walks in to the house, he looks at it and looks like he remembers something. So hopefully we get to see what goes down with that. Also, a great thing about the hank/walt relationship. When it started Walt was the "weaker" man, and Hank was the big bad ass. When both were faced with extreme danger, that completely changed. Walt left behind a quiet, normal life involved chemistry (teaching) to get deeper in to the danger. Hank, after being hospitalised, left the dangerous work and went to something quiet, and pretty 'boring' (minerals). Nice connection there. Also some great imagery when Lydia walks in to the carwash, Walt completely blanks her and acts normal, as if he has no idea what she's on about. This is the exact same tactic Gus would use when Walt went in to Los Pollos Hermanos all flustered. Edited August 16, 2013 by Jaaakkkeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsum_Fantastic Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 http://www.avclub.com/articles/sundays-breaking-bad-was-dedicated-to-a-teen-who-d,101603/ this should really be in the ace-ic thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaaakkkeee Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/08/breaking-bad-theories/?viewall=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING WHISPERING!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E.C Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 for anyone who hasn't seen it, walt kills marie for always wearing purple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsten Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING WHISPERING!!! I was watching it in bed and had the volume turned all the way up, and still couldn't hear a word when Walt was lying on the bathroom floor. Had to take the laptop through to our living room where the speakers are, rewind to that bit, watch it then return to bed. Dammit Walt! In other news: Oh Jesse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Subtitles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsten Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Subtitles.I did put them on, but they didn't show up. It was pretty early, though, so they probably just hadn't got them up at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 That episode was a bit of a non event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 It was a great episode! Loads of great scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Nah I agree with Jan. It was an ok episode with some cool scenes but it was a total let down after episode 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'd say it was just as good. The opening with the money and Jesse was cool. The scenes with Hank & Skylar and Marie & Skylar were done excellently. Todd's reappearance with Lydia was great too. The episode was always going to be about the family's reaction to Hank's discovery and I don't think they could have done it much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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