framheim Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I've got a new EP recorded and ready to go but would like to get it mastered and pressed to vinyl. In order to do this I thought I'd try a kickstarter project.If you'd like to did it about the EP and maybe support the project then check out the page: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1058136871/daemons-framIf the target is reached we make the EP. If the target is exceeded we might make more records by other people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 May I suggest idiegogo as a better route for this kind of thing, kickstarter is great but only gives the money if its fully funded, but if it's something you're definitely intending on putting out anyway but are just looking to offset some costs indiegogo gives you whatever is made if you choose to move forward with the project even if you don't make the target. Cheers Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thanks Stuart, I did look at other options but I can't get it completed without raising the full amount and figured it was a good trade off for the extra awareness that Kickstarter has. Sponsume is another good site for project raising.I'll post more info tonight when I'm at home but please spread the word even if you can't support the project yourself folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 also, "if you'd like to did about the EP"? what the hell was I trying to say there? possibly suggesting that if you'd like know more about the EP just click the link. sheesh, early morning phone fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Not meaning to sound like an absolute dick here, but why would other people pay for you to make an EP? Surely you pay for these things yourself, you take the risk it may or may not work out, and you put the effort into releasing this? Why would you think other people should be willing to help fund this? Or am i missing the point completely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 They shouldn't. Other people aren't paying for me to make an EP, no ones forcing anyone to back this. Kickstarter is just a way to presell packages of a finished product or project and it's a great way to finance small projects which can be tricky to raise funds for. Quite simply, if I self-released this entirely off my own back it would take a couple of years for me to save up to do it. Using kickstarter allows artists to build interest and develop projects with less risk and everyone wins. Customers get a great product, usually with some extras and feel more engaged in the process and artists get to continue creating and producing work. All I'm asking is for people to take a look and if they'd like to get involved they can support the project at a variety of levels, even just sharing it with their own friends. If they don't want to get involved they just close the window and do something else. I know people seem to have an issue with kickstarter but it's a brilliant way for people to raise funds and is here to stay.I'd hate to think it comes across as simply me feeling like other people should fund an ep but this is a project I feel passionate about and if it goes ahead it will hopefully be a launchpad for further releases by a few different artists (not all using kickstarter).Hope that helps explain the reasoning behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Like i say, i hope i didnt come across as a dick asking that Dave, it wasnt my attention at all. Its just something new that i have no idea about. I dont have an issue with kickstarter as such, but i personally wouldnt get involved with it, only from my point of view, if i want to release something, i would go about it myself. But im not having a go at you for following that route, and i wish you all the best with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Like i say, i hope i didnt come across as a dick asking that Dave, it wasnt my attention at all. Its just something new that i have no idea about. I dont have an issue with kickstarter as such, but i personally wouldnt get involved with it, only from my point of view, if i want to release something, i would go about it myself. But im not having a go at you for following that route, and i wish you all the best with it. nah you didn't come across as a dick, it's a question I expected to be asked as I know people have that view of kickstarter. It's just another way of enabling projects to actually get completed. hopefully I've created rewards that people see some value in and will be keen to get on board with, if I haven't then I won't reach my target. There's no risk to those who are backing, if I hit the target the EP gets made and they get their reward. If I don't, no money is taken. It's new for me too but hopefully it all works out and I can do more. If I exceed the target then I'll put anything extra into more releases or putting on ace shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adam Easy Wishes Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Perhaps there could be another thread for the various merits or downsides to crowdfunding projects? I agree, and I'm certainly not trying to discredit your project. I'm happy for my posts to be moved should a mod wish to do what they need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I've backed tons of Kickstarter projects and think it's great. Not only are you contributing to something you want to see made, rather than something a board of directors think you want made, but you often get a good deal on the actual product. That's the key: The reward for backing should be great value for money, not just a 'thanks for backing'. Good luck reaching your goal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHand Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I totally agree with ca_gere. This is the first I've heard about this particular site though, I had only heard about the power of crowd funding through watching a talk by Amanda Palmer of the Dresen Dolls on TED. It is a chance for people to get involved in projects they believe in. Also great for music lovers to be connected to music they want to hear too. I'll take a closer look at your proposals later Dave, can't properly comment on your proposal yet. I imagine this works well for established artists wanting to progress to a more ambitious release and already have a large body of work and many performance behind them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adam Easy Wishes Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Out of interest what will the cost be to buy a copy of the vinyl once pressed? For those who didn't invest in the Kickstarter campagin, I mean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Sorry Dave i've kicked it all off! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 jeezo. I certainly didn't want to come across as some kind of profiteering ass. To clarify, each reward includes all previous rewards so it's going up a level each time. Perhaps I should introduce two vanilla rewards just for the download and the physical vinyl without any liner thanks or extras? If i'm lucky enough to meet and exceed the target any profits will simply be put back into more music or even looking at pressing releases by other artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flights Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I think this a pretty neat idea for an independent artist to get physical copies of their work out there.I was really impressed with the E.P when I got that wee sneak peek through facebook.Hope it all goes to plan Dave! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I think this a pretty neat idea for an independent artist to get physical copies of their work out there.I was really impressed with the E.P when I got that wee sneak peek through facebook.Hope it all goes to plan Dave! Cheers min! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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framheim Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 everyone's entitled to criticise and obviously you're way more experienced at this than I am (this sounds sarcastic but it's not, you've been running a DIY label for a couple of years) as this is the first time i've attempted to put a proper release together . I do appreciate the feedback. If people don't see the value or aren't interested in it then they simply won't back it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsum_Fantastic Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Seems expensive to me but as you say if people don't see value in it, they won't back it very simple. Good luck to you though man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted April 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 I've posted an update on the project including track no 2 from the EP - Race to the Pole http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1058136871/daemons-fram/posts/447205 Thanks for all the amazing support so far! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Flights Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Wow! What a great opportunity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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