Untitled Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Smoking at the bar in a third of British pubs is to be banned, says the British Beer and Pub Association. The body claims that around 22,000 bars and pubs will enforce a ban before the end of next year. Five chains have signed up for the measure after customers were questioned on their preferences. Simon Clark, director of smokers' rights group Forest, said: "We support these proposals to a degree because they still allow an element of choice." The British Beer and Pub Association hopes that within five years around 80% of pub space will eventually become non-smoking. But the measure falls short of a complete ban on smoking in pubs. Mitchells & Butlers, Punch Pub Company, Scottish & Newcastle Pub Enterprises and Spirit Group and Enterprise Inns are all planning to enforce the ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aileen Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 end of next year????why so long? surely this has been on the cards for long enough?! get it done!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 get it done!!!!!No, don't. You'll only end up with morons standing around outside pubs being lairy when you're trying to get from A to B in town and it'll be more difficult to get my smoking friends to go certain places. Even though I don't smoke myself, the whole thing sounds a pain in the arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aileen Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 smoke = smelly! i really really hate itevery act has a consequence and you cant please everyonei say give it a shot, if it ends up being a bigger problem than before it was enforced then so be it, cross that bridge when we come to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I'm sorry, but I don't understand any no smoking legislation? Passive smoking has never had a proven link to cancer. So how can they implement this?Anyone who says that there is a proven link is lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I'm sorry' date=' but I don't understand any no smoking legislation? Passive smoking has never had a proven link to cancer. So how can they implement this?Anyone who says that there is a proven link is lying.[/quote']"There is a proven link between passive smoking and cancer" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 It may not be a proven link, but I'd take the advice of the BMA over the TMA any day of the week thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 It may not be a proven link' date=' but I'd take the advice of the BMA over the TMA any day of the week thanks...[/quote']Look, inhailing smoke probably isn't too good for you, that's pretty clear, but unless you live in a pub, can't see it being too too bad for you. But I'm guessing. And I guess you're screwed if you work in a pub. Jeez, I wish I had a funny picture to distract from my lack of intellegent discourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 It may not be a proven link' date=' but I'd take the advice of the BMA over the TMA any day of the week thanks...[/quote']I'm now a non smoker, and would prefer not to be around smoke, because of the smell factor. But since when was it ok for the government to enforce laws, on a subject that has no factual proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I'm sorry' date=' but I don't understand any no smoking legislation? Passive smoking has never had a proven link to cancer. So how can they implement this?Anyone who says that there is a proven link is lying.[/quote'] This isn't legislation, it's voluntary. I'm glad cos now we can say to that reformed smoker of a first minister, "Whoa horsey, let's just see what happens if a lot of pubs put in a voluntary ban, no need for legislation yet" since he seems keen to do this soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untitled Posted September 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 in the end its the pubs/bars choisein the end it will be for the good and will help people realise that smoking is bad and a pointless habit to startit will also unfortunatly alienate people that do smoke but thats a choise of their own to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I'm now a non smoker' date=' and would prefer not to be around smoke, because of the smell factor. But since when was it ok for the government to enforce laws, on a subject that has no factual proof?[/quote']Oh I dunno, war in Iraq maybe... Many illnesses and diseases ARE linked to smoking though - who said it HAD to be about cancer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Lead Soup Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I'd much rather prefer a pleasant compromise, as opposed to any ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aileen Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Oh I dunno' date=' war in Iraq maybe... [/quote']aaaaahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 in the end it will be for the good and will help people realise that smoking is bad and a pointless habit to startWRONG! The Bogart institute discovered that smoking can make you 23.7% cooler (under labatory conditions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Oh I dunno' date=' war in Iraq maybe... Many illnesses and diseases ARE linked to smoking though - who said it HAD to be about cancer?[/quote']Linked to smoking? Or passive smoking?Ian: I accept that this, for now, is a choice that the pub owners can make. But my main problem with it, is that there is a big deal made out of it, and how we are lied to about the dangers of passive smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 WRONG! The Bogart institute discovered that smoking can make you 23.7% cooler (under labatory conditions).only if you wear a leather jacket and brylcreem, or a lounge suit with dark glasses though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untitled Posted September 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 WRONG! The Bogart institute discovered that smoking can make you 23.7% cooler (under labatory conditions). well, if cool to use is a slow painful deathfight the power brother!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Linked to smoking? Or passive smoking?Ian: I accept that this' date=' for now, is a choice that the pub owners can make. But my main problem with it, is that there is a big deal made out of it, and how we are lied to about the dangers of passive smoking.[/quote']Tell that one to Roy Castle's widow then.Passive smoking does cause diseases. It's no coincidence that I get throat problems after having been in a smokey atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 well' date=' if cool to use is a slow painful deathfight the power brother!!![/quote']I don't smoke, but I can prove it to you: COOL! NOT COOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 WRONG! The Bogart institute discovered that smoking can make you 23.7% cooler (under labatory conditions).Once again, proof that passive smoking doesn't do anything...how often do you see some dude passive smoking, and say "Woah, he looks cool". Never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Here's a scenario....Nip outside for a fag. Can't take drink with you as it's against town by-laws.Drink gets spiked.Get bum-fuckedWorld ends..... or something.All because of Mr McConnell.Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 yup cos there's a lot of drink spiking and bum fucking going on in Ireland right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 yup cos there's a lot of drink spiking and bum fucking going on in Ireland right now...No one actully drinks Guiness though. They buy it to look tough and then poor it out when nobody is looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 it tastes so much better in Ireland than it does over here.The Guinness that is :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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