Soda Jerk Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I get where you're coming from. But I think my dad wasn't too flush either at the time and his argument was "What if I didn't own my flat? You'd be fixing it anyway, now fuck off and get it done. Because if we can't sell our flat due to a shite door and junkie neighbours remember you HAVE to buy it back."I don't think they want to sell it anymore, but the first part of the argument still stands.They'd be paying for it because they would be the majority landlord. If there are an equal amount or more private properties in a block, then they expect owners to help maintain the block they live in, which is quite right really. If your folks owned a flat in a 100% private block, then they'd probably be getting billed for maintenance work more often. As with the Council, alot of bills go unclaimed because private owners have told the Council to fuck off, but the Council have gone ahead with the repair anyway due to how severe it is. With alot of private blocks, it seems that if you don't pay up, then fuck all gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm pretty sure at the time it was 2/6 owned the flat. So there were less private properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 If damage is being done to the communal area's by people the council are responsible for then why the hell should Jakes parents pay? If the council are unhappy about paying for new doors they should kick the people out the flat. If the damage was just wear and tear then yes Jakes folks should pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I get where you're coming from. But I think my dad wasn't too flush either at the time and his argument was "What if I didn't own my flat? You'd be fixing it anyway, now fuck off and get it done. Because if we can't sell our flat due to a shite door and junkie neighbours remember you HAVE to buy it back."I don't think they want to sell it anymore, but the first part of the argument still stands.If he didn't own it, he'd perhaps be renting it off the council who as landlord would be liable for any repairs. Why expect to acquire the benefits associated with owning a property if you're not prepared to take on the liability for the upkeep of it?I'm pretty sure at the time it was 2/6 owned the flat. So there were less private properties.In which case the council (as owner of 4 out of 6 properties) should be liable for 4/6ths of the cost (that's the same as 2/3rds), with the private owners taking responsibility for their share of the outsanding third.What's not fair about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 If it's less than 50% private owners, I dunno why you're getting billed at all. The majority owned blocks are maintained regardless.This is boring talk. Not enough banter.SHAGGING. BEER. LADS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 If damage is being done to the communal area's by people the council are responsible for then why the hell should Jakes parents pay? If the council are unhappy about paying for new doors they should kick the people out the flat. If the damage was just wear and tear then yes Jakes folks should pay.That's different. If I owned a property in a block of six flats and the guy from flat 2 broke the door through just being an angry twat then I would expect him (or his landlord) to foot the bill in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Well that's what happened. The junkies and their junkie friends would boot in the door as it seems no one cuts keys for junkies. Also, dealers and folk wanting money would kick in the door. So it is the landlord of the flat responsible that should have to pay.If I broke the door I'd pay, no problem. But Milner's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 That's different. If I owned a property in a block of six flats and the guy from flat 2 broke the door through just being an angry twat then I would expect him (or his landlord) to foot the bill in full.Let me refresh youWe have this in our flats and due to junkies/kids etc it gets booted open at least once every couple of months. Some folk are quick to jump down the throats of certain posters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ah, fair enough. Cooncil should pay as landlord and presumably (hopefully) pass this cost on to their tenant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 If damage is being done to the communal area's by people the council are responsible for then why the hell should Jakes parents pay? If the council are unhappy about paying for new doors they should kick the people out the flat. If the damage was just wear and tear then yes Jakes folks should pay.That's right, but it would need to have been reported to the police as soon as it happened, with a reference number, otherwise there's no case, and it's one word against another (unless the junkie admitted to it). If the police are aware of it, the ASBIT folk will fix it and claim it back from the guilty party (if one has been identified). Otherwise, the council will fix it and send a bill to all y'all.Srsly though. If your folks are planning on staying there long term, or even selling it, then paying your share for one of the crime prevention doors is a wise investment. They have a slab of iron sandwiched between the wood, and like 6 synchronised locks. Not even The Hulk could break in. If you put one on a bomb shelter, and you got bombed, your shelter would be in tatters and you would probably be dead, but the door would be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Let me refresh youWe have this in our flats and due to junkies/kids etc it gets booted open at least once every couple of months. Some folk are quick to jump down the throats of certain posters At no point does it state the junkies and/or kids are tenants of the block though, does it? That's the key to the whole argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I assume it wasn't reported to the poh-poh at the time, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 At no point does it state the junkies and/or kids are tenants of the block though, does it? That's the key to the whole argument.Surely this was enough of an indication?Someone who doesn't live here anymore started an argument with one of the old junkies once, whilst a little drunk. Got kicked the shit out of for his troubles, when had every right to tell them to fuck off.My mum went down to them with a baseball bat once. Brilliantly funny. She's little over 5 foot. Like i say just waiting to jump down his throat, its cool tho, i know Jake doesnt care a jot and i just find it amusing, carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 John Terry. Abi Titmus. Top Gear. Tits. Not asking for directions. Lads. Smashed it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Again, the above only mentions a fight - nothing at all about a door or damage to the communal areas?"Waiting to jump down his throat" - what, like I'm sitting by the computer rubbing my hands together at the thought of him passing comment on something I can call him out on? Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 If the people doing it even had connections with the tennants (i.e. junkie mates, dealers looking for money) then they'd pay.If, when I had my own flat, one of my mates did damage to the communal area, I'd go off my head because I know it'd be my duty to pay it.It wasn't me, but it was due to me that someone that did damage was in the position to do the damage.Oh and Soda Jerk, police were round for junkies all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Get onto the police and then the council. The junkies will get booted eventually if anti-social behaviour continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Srsly though. If your folks are planning on staying there long term, or even selling it, then paying your share for one of the crime prevention doors is a wise investment. They have a slab of iron sandwiched between the wood, and like 6 synchronised locks. Not even The Hulk could break in. If you put one on a bomb shelter, and you got bombed, your shelter would be in tatters and you would probably be dead, but the door would be fine.And the junkies will love it because the police can't kick them down. Sounds like a win win to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Man, these sound like tough junkies. They must be getting loads of quality gear if they're not lying around in their own faeces being dope-sick everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 This thread's got me jumpy. I heard a noise and had to investigate. Turned out it was my next door neighbour exercising his legitimate right to enter the building. Sat back down, feeling a bit silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeno Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 A flat downstairs from me had their window smashed and things stolen over the weekend. Needless to say the suspects are the benefit scrounging methodone dependent chavs upstairs. Me = very surprised. I was so shocked to find that in one of the most sought after and expensive places to live in Aberdeen where I pay £550 a month for a single bedroom flat, I would have neighbours even worse than when I grew up on a dodgy council estate in Edinburgh. That's Aberdeen City Council for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'd phone crimestoppers but it's an 0845 number.A) Pretty poor that the thought of paying for one phone call has put you off doing what you really should do.B) You're wrong anyway - 0800 555 111http://www.crimestoppers-uk.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 230 euros to change the locks. bloody hell. the owner will be paying for it anyway, whether he likes it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 A flat downstairs from me had their window smashed and things stolen over the weekend. Needless to say the suspects are the benefit scrounging methodone dependent chavs upstairs. Me = very surprised. I was so shocked to find that in one of the most sought after and expensive places to live in Aberdeen where I pay £550 a month for a single bedroom flat, I would have neighbours even worse than when I grew up on a dodgy council estate in Edinburgh. That's Aberdeen City Council for you.Only £550 for a one bed? Can't be that nice a place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Only £550 for a one bed? Can't be that nice a place?Something something cheese baguette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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