Chris Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 The yin to the yang of the arsehole 2011 thread. Who are the good guys that have made this year worthwhile?I expect a large amount of Balotelli in this thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girl anachronism Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Balotelli for sure.Aung San Suu Kyi.Bobby Burg.Anthony Baxter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Owl PhD Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 In the interests of balance... although also true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Aung San Suu Kyi definitely. Good shout Claire. I'll also say Hillary Clinton for her brilliant speech at the UN a week or so ago. Also, on a less humanitarian and more holy fuck she's awesome note I'm going with Carrie Brownstein. Also my PhD supervisor for his seemingly limitless patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsten Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 It's always Jarvis Cocker. Except when it's Robin Ince.Actually, Hugh Grant ranks pretty highly this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 The bass fairy (who may or may not be my wife) - for buying me a Gibson RD Artist bass. Christmas and birthday exemption for five years, I'd say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltz Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Keith Lemon.Funniest thing on TV. And somehow avoids making column inches despite the programme containing infinitely more objectionable content for 'Outraged of Tunbridge Wells' to get in a lather over than anything else.And despite normally not being a big fan, David Cameron for standing up to the Germany-France coalition party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Keith Lemon.Funniest thing on TV. And somehow avoids making column inches despite the programme containing infinitely more objectionable content for 'Outraged of Tunbridge Wells' to get in a lather over than anything else.And despite normally not being a big fan, David Cameron for standing up to the Germany-France coalition party.hmm, there's standing up to them and then there's just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalalalala" and chucking your toys out of the pram, just to play upto your pseudo hardman mates who are egging you on from the other side of the channel. politics is about diplomacy and compromise, not polarisation and isolation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gladstone Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Na - David Cameron was in a lose-lose situation. I think he made the best of a bad hand. Ed Miliband's posturing after that nonsense is why he gets my vote in the other thread. I'd have loved to have seen what Miliband (or Clegg) would have done in that situation./Off topicI'm struggling to think of anyone that's been particularly ace. I'll go for that kid who got his jaw smashed in by the thugs in the London riots - he took that whole incident so well and with a smile on his face on the press conference after he'd had his jaw rewired or whatever it was they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 The boy that gave the other boy a powerbomb on to a concrete kerb 'cause he was being bullied. He was my favourite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Eupraxia because of his love of bamboo decorations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 hmm, there's standing up to them and then there's just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalalalala" and chucking your toys out of the pram, just to play upto your pseudo hardman mates who are egging you on from the other side of the channel. politics is about diplomacy and compromise, not polarisation and isolation.I don't think that's what Cameron did at all, that seems a wee bit of a dedicated anti-Tory spiel.Your beloved Salmond the Hutt is destined to sell Scotland out to Europe for his own gain in rank and priviledge if we ever become independent, of that I am sure.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'd have loved to have seen what Miliband (or Clegg) would have done in that situation.Drop trousers and bend over desk while Angela Merkel straps on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 I don't think that's what Cameron did at all, that seems a wee bit of a dedicated anti-Tory spiel.Your beloved Salmond the Hutt is destined to sell Scotland out to Europe for his own gain in rank and priviledge if we ever become independent, of that I am sure....that's exactly what cameron did, he was pandering to the eurosceptic backbenchers in his own party and desperate to say he was standing up for britain against big bad europe. the things he didn't want to happen are still going to happen only now he has no say in it. the other 26 eu members are creating a treaty which will still have a financial transactions tax which city of london firms will have to pay (because they all operate in europe, in euros). all he's managed to achieve is a soundbite while weakening the uk's position in europe and potentially the world. not sure why you're bringing up salmond, it's got nothing to do with cameron's stance on the renegotiated treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 that's exactly what cameron did, he was pandering to the eurosceptic backbenchers in his own party and desperate to say he was standing up for britain against big bad europe. the things he didn't want to happen are still going to happen only now he has no say in it. the other 26 eu members are creating a treaty which will still have a financial transactions tax which city of london firms will have to pay (because they all operate in europe, in euros). all he's managed to achieve is a soundbite while weakening the uk's position in europe and potentially the world.not sure why you're bringing up salmond, it's got nothing to do with cameron's stance on the renegotiated treaty.As I understand it, Cameron hasn't actually lost the UK anything at this stage, the EU can't just implement the changes that the Treaty was to intended to agree without UK approval as a member state. Unless the EU circumnavigates the rules which I suppose is always possible. You also assume that the Euro will continue to exist and that's not a foregone conclusion at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 As I understand it, Cameron hasn't actually lost the UK anything at this stage, the EU can't just implement the changes that the Treaty was to intended to agree without UK approval as a member state. Unless the EU circumnavigates the rules which I suppose is always possible. You also assume that the Euro will continue to exist and that's not a foregone conclusion at this point in time.they're just going to have a seperate treaty, so the 26 other countries will sign up to this treaty which regulate the eurozone and create tighter links between the 26 economies and budgets. as the uk holds more banks and financial service companies than any other eu country this will still affect us even though we're not in the euro. most of our exports are to europe and a large amount of our imports too. like it or not we are tied to the european economies and need to have a say in what happens there, a failed euro will not benefit the uk.so while the lisbon treaty is off limits now, we may now just be left holding it while everyone else moves onto a new treaty and union. hopefully it'll all pan out happily but it's a pretty worrying situation. I do agree that it was a very hard position for cameron to be in and I don't know if anyone would have come out with a different outcome. what annoys me is that cameron and the tories are saying this is some kind of victory, when nothing has been solved and we have no idea how it will really affect us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gladstone Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 What do you reckon Miliband et. al. would be saying if Cameron had caved in and agreed with what was tabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 it's the job of opposition to challenge and hold the government to account. i would expect them to challenge cameron no matter the result.it's not about caving in, it's about diplomacy and negotiation. the way the whole thing was handled led to polarisation and posturing. as i admitted, it was a tough position to be in and i don't know if there was a better solution but the way it's being presented and the way it seems to have been handled is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Jazz Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 It's one thing to challenge the government's choices and hold them to account, but it's quite another for Miliband to claim that Cameron "failed Britain" at the EU Summit, when his own aides were briefing Labour MPs that he wouldn't have signed it either.He's a two-faced, opportunistic fud.EDIT: Public support is strongly in favour of the stance Cameron took. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Its the first time i have agreed with anything Cameron has said or done, well done to him for not just bending over and taking it. I hate the Conservatives, but hats off to them on this occasion, for once they have done the right thing imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Phil Jones' face.Not him or his personality, because he seems like a bit of a dullard and a little dumb. But his face, that deserves the award on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 My wife and kids for being a constant inspiration to me. Without them, I don't know who I'd be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanClews Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 My wife and kids for being a constant inspiration to me. Without them, I don't know who I'd be.Alright, no need to break into an awards speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 That program was shit anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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