Alkaline Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Warren G- Regulate...'Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest droid Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The Roots....Do You Want More. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The Roots....Do You Want More.The Roots are damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Not a fan of the ol' bitches and money, personally.Good shout on MM... Food though. Also, Main Source's Breaking Atoms. Ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer_Rosa Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The Low End Theory would be my choice. Cos it has Scenario on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Cocker Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Genius GZA - Liquid Swords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kernel Loaf Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Let's just put it all under one big alt-black music umbrella. (I.e, I'm not entirely sure on the big difference myself. I'm sure there is one. I just don't know what it is)In that case, I am digging a lot of Scott Joplin and Negro Spiritual compilations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 In that case, I am digging a lot of Scott Joplin and Negro Spiritual compilations.I used the word alt because Spirituals, jazz etc is quite archetypal american black music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I used the word alt because Spirituals, jazz etc is quite archetypal american black music.and hip hop isn't? o_O also, if there's one abbreviation to apply to jazz its 'alt'Pedantry aside, early Pharcyde contained some of the best raps for me.I agree with murr that there should be more hip hop/rap threads, it's just a shame that every single one ends up with someone writing 'fo shizzle' or some such embarrassing anachronistic attempt at black slang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kernel Loaf Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I agree with murr that there should be more hip hop/rap threads, it's just a shame that every single one ends up with someone writing 'fo shizzle' or some such embarrassing anachronistic attempt at black slang.Maybe we should all post a tune that are among our favourites and what we think folks should check out.I will take the initiative: Great video too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I agree with murr that there should be more hip hop/rap threads, it's just a shame that every single one ends up with someone writing 'fo shizzle' or some such embarrassing anachronistic attempt at black slang.Word. No, I'm serious...Pharcyde stuff is overrated in my opinion, I don't appreciate the production. A few jamz on the first album though.Serious albums for me? Nas - IllmaticWu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 chambers)GZA - Liquid SwordsOnly Built 4 Cuban LinxKeith Thornton - Dr. Octagonecologyst (can't find my fuckin copy)Edan - Beauty and the beat (probably my favourite rap album of the last 10 years since the rest of my taste seems to be stuck in a hole somewhere in the mid 90s)Other favourites:-Any of the first 3 Tribe albums-ODB - 36 chambers (dirty version)- Jeru the damaja - sun rises in the east-Most of the Ghostface albums are fairly decent, I prefer his voice over the harder wutang beats though, not the softer production that he seems to favour. -Alkaholiks - 21 & over-Gang Starr - Hard To earn-Mobb Deep - The Infamous (production too samey but some real classics tracks)- Gravediggaz - 6 feet deepControversial:Biggie's albums aren't great. The man was nice on the mic, but I can't listen to Life After Death with a straight face thanks to Puffy & co's whack production. The Preemo joints are hot (especially 'Kick In The Door') but can anyone really listen to both discs of that shit and honestly act like it's a rap classic? The first is far more consistent but revisiting it I get bored listening to be honest. Rap albums of the 21st century that have impressed me: as mentioned previously since I got into this type of music and found myself fairly obsessed with it I have been buying stuff from an era that most people would consider 'classic' if not 'old school'. I do however occasionally check out newer stuff that I like:GZA - pro tools (after a string of apparently awful solo albums following liquid swords, this one released late last year is not a million miles away from his debut...no not THAT debut)Masta Killa - no said date (2nd rate clan member waits a decade for his solo to come out while the rest of his group's material nosedives and shames most of them with a pretty consistent, kung-fu laden LP which btw also features nearly all if not all of the other wu tangers)(MF) Doom - Born like this (first of his stuff i've heard, more to follow very shortly, love it!)Blu & Mainframe - Johnson & Jonson (west coast rap without the west coast sound, much-hyped Blu spits a young but fairly impressive collection of words over fairly raw, upbeat soul sampling beats courtesy of mainframe - i must check out more of what these guys are doing).How about some rap singles? Many of my favourites either weren't on albums, weren't successful enough to warrant an album or led to albums that plain SUCKED.My favourite 90s rap mix is here...I beg you to listen to itRapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Von Mondragon Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I'd say that Dr Octagon- The Ecologyst is far ahead of most things I've ever heard in any genre, let alone Hip Hop, and that Spectrum by Quannum is not far behind, but I way prefer the backpack shit to the posturing of much of the mainstream scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 the only Hip Hop album Ive found so far that I like to listen to repeatedly is Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein. It's fucking amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 A few of my favourites:NWA - Straight Outta ComptonArrested Development - 3 years, 5 Months, 2 Days In The Life OfDr Dre - The Chronic (though only because of Snoop Dogg)Wu Tang - 36 ChambersJurassic 5 - J5 LPK'naan - The Dusty Foot PhilosopherBiggie - Ready To DiePublic Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of MillionsSnoop Dogg - No Limit Top DoggXzibit - 40 Days And 40 NightsDMX - Then There Was XSome of the Wu Tang solo stuff is pretty good, Method Man is probably my favourite of the lot and Raekwon isn't bad.Oh and Eminem, the Marshall Mathers LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Maybe we should all post a tune that are among our favourites and what we think folks should check out.I will take the initiative: Great video too. right about the vid too.I like...YouTube - Saian Supa Crew-Hey Yo My Man feat. Roots Manuva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Word. No, I'm serious...Pharcyde stuff is overrated in my opinion, I don't appreciate the production. A few jamz on the first album though.Serious albums for me? Nas - IllmaticWu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 chambers)GZA - Liquid SwordsOnly Built 4 Cuban LinxKeith Thornton - Dr. Octagonecologyst (can't find my fuckin copy)Edan - Beauty and the beat (probably my favourite rap album of the last 10 years since the rest of my taste seems to be stuck in a hole somewhere in the mid 90s)Other favourites:-Any of the first 3 Tribe albums-ODB - 36 chambers (dirty version)- Jeru the damaja - sun rises in the east-Most of the Ghostface albums are fairly decent, I prefer his voice over the harder wutang beats though, not the softer production that he seems to favour. -Alkaholiks - 21 & over-Gang Starr - Hard To earn-Mobb Deep - The Infamous (production too samey but some real classics tracks)- Gravediggaz - 6 feet deepControversial:Biggie's albums aren't great. The man was nice on the mic, but I can't listen to Life After Death with a straight face thanks to Puffy & co's whack production. The Preemo joints are hot (especially 'Kick In The Door') but can anyone really listen to both discs of that shit and honestly act like it's a rap classic? The first is far more consistent but revisiting it I get bored listening to be honest. Rap albums of the 21st century that have impressed me: as mentioned previously since I got into this type of music and found myself fairly obsessed with it I have been buying stuff from an era that most people would consider 'classic' if not 'old school'. I do however occasionally check out newer stuff that I like:GZA - pro tools (after a string of apparently awful solo albums following liquid swords, this one released late last year is not a million miles away from his debut...no not THAT debut)Masta Killa - no said date (2nd rate clan member waits a decade for his solo to come out while the rest of his group's material nosedives and shames most of them with a pretty consistent, kung-fu laden LP which btw also features nearly all if not all of the other wu tangers)(MF) Doom - Born like this (first of his stuff i've heard, more to follow very shortly, love it!)Blu & Mainframe - Johnson & Jonson (west coast rap without the west coast sound, much-hyped Blu spits a young but fairly impressive collection of words over fairly raw, upbeat soul sampling beats courtesy of mainframe - i must check out more of what these guys are doing).How about some rap singles? Many of my favourites either weren't on albums, weren't successful enough to warrant an album or led to albums that plain SUCKED.My favourite 90s rap mix is here...I beg you to listen to itRapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy FilehostingThe production on Pharcyde stuff was never what interested me. I got into them when I was fairly young and didn't have a clue about that sort of stuff. I just loved the way they half sung their rhymes and their flow seemed completely different to what was around at the same time. Agree on tribe, listen to them a lot still. Q-tip's last album is pretty good too.I feel you have to wade through a lot of guff to get to the good Wu Tang stuff and so my fave album of theirs would probably be The Rza Hits.Never listened to much MF Doom, might have to get stuck into it seeing as a few folk mention them.Dunno where I stand on Biggie. He's got some absolute corkers and his rapping I find quite hypnotic. It's just a shame that everything he's ever done has been rejigged and over produced with some whiny female voice put over the top. Best G funk rapper? Dj Quick!!!! Love the guy. Constantly talking bout his dick and sipping forties over the most californian of beats. YouTube - Dj Quik - ToniteFavourite newer stuff:AtmosphereDoseoneaesop rockaliasactually come to think of if, where are the hip hop 'groups' nowadays? Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, etc... there seems to be less new ones nockin about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 right about the vid too.I like...YouTube - Saian Supa Crew-Hey Yo My Man feat. Roots ManuvaA couple of K'naans from me cos he is awesomely awesome. YouTube - K'naan - What's Hardcore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltz Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Cadence Weapon's good. Reaaal good.I prefer Public Enemy's 'Fear of a Black Planet' also. NWA, MF DOOM, Deltron 3030 and Madvillain are also good.I don't listen to enough hip hop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Great shout on Arrested Development. Solid album. Even if it does yammer on about jesus. It's like if a primary school teacher taught the class by rapping, and you're just sat there listening in, except he takes a strange tangent of going on about how he punched a sucker for hassling his girl. Love that record.Nas' Illmatic, GZA's Liquid Swords (this is now 3 quid in OneUp. GET IT!) and Edan's Beauty and The Beat are probably my top 3. Tribes Midnight Marauders and Wu's 36 Chambers closely follow. Possibly J5's Quality Control or the first Binary Star record too, for that fun party hip hop stuff.Prefuse73's Uprock Narritives is also incredible, but it is roughly 1/2 instrumental. But the beats are just as important as rhymes. I love beats.To go against popular opinion... I'm really not all that big on Raekwon's Cuban Linx. Apart from this, Liquid Swords and Bobby Digital, I haven't heard any other WU solo records. I should rectify this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 A couple of K'naans from me cos he is awesomely awesome. YouTube - K'naan - What's Hardcore That's an absolute treat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 That's an absolute treat! Indeed it is. I fucking love K'naan. In "What's Hardcore" he's all like, listen you so called gangstas, I've got a real fucking story for you.Here's another treat one of his finest moments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrr Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Regarding Biggie; I think Ready to Die is an absolute pearl but I can't really stomach most of the posthumous stuff that's been released. Life After Death did absolutely nothing for me, and Duets was craptastic. The guy's flow is always solid, but Puff Daddy Diddy Doodly can take a hike.Madvillain was brilliant. I've not yet listened to much of Doom's other stuff, but the Madvillain album didn't leave my CD player for a long time. Del tha Funkee Homosapien, anyone? Guy's just so much fun to listen to; real nice beats and a smooth flow. I Wish My Brother George Was Here is probably his best solo effort, but the Deltron 3030 album is on a completely different level. I tried to get into Gang Starr and Mobb Deep but really couldn't, for whatever reason. Should probably give them another chance. I'm about to check out Black Star (Blackstar?) and Blackalicious. Any Dead Prez fans on here? I picked up one of their albums (can't remember the title) and it was an absolute cracker. Production was a little bit repetitive at times, but golly gosh, Steven! The flows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Von Mondragon Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Not forgetting Return to the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version, unhingedly ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I tried to get into Gang Starr and Mobb Deep but really couldn't, for whatever reason. Try theseYouTube - Mobb Deep - Shook Ones Pt 2 YouTube - Gangstarr - Alongwaytogo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 What Wu offshoots/solo stuff do you all recommend, barring the three I mentioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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