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Human Rights...Votes for Prisoners ?


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I agree that they should not be able to vote, why should they get their say if they've committed a crime , they don't deserve any of the things they get in prisons across Britain-- "Oh, you've killed someone, you'll have to go to jail for 8 years, probably be out in 4 and you can have a comfy bed and a big ol' TV", fuck sake.

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Don't think prisoners should be able to vote whilst they're in prison. When you commit a crime in/against society, you forfeit the right to have a democratic say imo. Once they've done their time, back to being able to vote again. Think that's quite fair.

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If it's going to be discussed, i wouldn't be offended if they could vote ..............

They can't vote.......its already been decided..... I saw it on the ITN news.... the commons have voted for NO voting rights....

just wondered what folk on here thought about that ?

Is it an infringement of their human rights ? (I don't think so!)

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They can't vote.......its already been decided..... I saw it on the ITN news.... the commons have voted for NO voting rights....

Commons vote last night was just MPs sounding off, NOT binding in any way.

There has been a European Court ruling saying that the govt. should give them the vote.

If the govt, listens to the will of parliament last night and doesn't give them the vote, then the prisoners will most likely sue the govt. for millions of pounds.

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If it's going to be discussed, i wouldn't be offended if they could vote, i personally think the stereotypical inmate wouldn't even bother voting anyway. Having said that, if they are pending release then they should be allowed to vote.

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Like in the St Anger video?

Or like Prison Mike?

"Do you know why they call me Prison Mike?!"

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I can't think of a single reason why letting the people we deem 'unsafe' to be a part of our society help decide who is in charge of said society is anything other than a horrendously stupid fucking idea.

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Voting / political involvement could play a part in the rehabilitation of an offender - they could be encouraged to 'join in'.

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I suppose, to further the argument a little, banning prisoners from voting acts as a very poor deterrent as few prisoners are of the mindset to exercise voting rights anyway (and therefore wouldn't necessarily view the loss of voting rights as a very tough punishment). Why then do we have such an issue with allowing prisoners to vote? They are part of society and this is a democracy.

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They are part of society but, in a way, to a lesser extent so their rights should be adjusted accordingly (imo etc).

Or just give them the right to vote...in exchange for all the TV sets etc :gringo:

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I don't understand why it matters whether prisoners vote or not? How does it affect society? In pretty much every case, their political views have got absolutely nothing to do with their crime, so why should removing that particular right have anything to do with their punishment? It's not like they're going to vote for the 'criminal' party...

And even if you go for a ban, why should it just be 'prisoners', and not 'criminals'? For example, some 18 year old gets caught with a bit of drugs on him, gets sent down for six months which just happens to coincide with an election. No vote. Yet a career criminal, just finished a 10 year stretch for murder can head off to the polls unhindered...

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ITV should have a new gameshow. 'Who wants the right to vote'

1000000

Vote

250000

Conjugal Visits

125000

Extra helpings of food

75000

Monthly Supply of Condoms

50000

A beer every week

25000

A Porno mag of the under 50s

5000

Porno mag of the over 50s

1000

a pizza

500

a condom

250

A book

And if they lose? Solitary confinement for 25 days with a hosedown and a slop out daily

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