Flights Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Should I buy a head or a combo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboy Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 depends if you can be bothered humphing a cab on the bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 If it's for bass, you probably want a head. Then just chuck an 8x10 on your free money card. Happy days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I always find heads more portable and convenient. I can probably count on one hand the times I've been asked to take my own cab to a gig. Took it on tour once, and it barely got used, since gigs just always seem to magically have a cab for everyone to use.So yeah, buy a head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 That looks awesome! I bought a Rhodes fairly recently and love it. Think I'd try for a Clavinet next.I would love a rhodes or a wurlitzer or one of those vintage vibes like the one pictured. But I can barely play my casio keyboard so can't really justify that layout. The vintage polyphonic ones like the yamaha cp-30 look nice though and that one on ebay is only £100. Weigh a tonne though. Will probably just save some pennies and get a decent priced stage piano and keep practicing on the casio for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I want that amp, it looks and sounds amazing!!!!It has a superb 70's crunch just before he cranks up the overdrive. It sounds amazing cranked as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fertuiee Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Just got one of these!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Cheers. There's been a couple of straight in to the PA jobs before. I know this is a 'n00by' question. But can you plug a head in to a combo and bypass the built in head and just use the speaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Just got one of these!!!!! I tried one of these in the States and wasn't that taken with it actually. The Pro Guitar Shop demo makes it sound amazing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Cheers. There's been a couple of straight in to the PA jobs before. I know this is a 'n00by' question. But can you plug a head in to a combo and bypass the built in head and just use the speaker?I wouldn't recommend running an amp into the line-in of an amplifier. Current generated by amplifier > current generated by a pickup. I imagine that the pre-amp stage probably wouldn't have a good time. However, certainly a lot of valve guitar combos have a small cable running from the amp to the speaker that can be unplugged. Obviously in this situation, running a head directly into the speakers is totally fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 I wouldn't recommend running an amp into the line-in of an amplifier. Current generated by amplifier > current generated by a pickup. I imagine that the pre-amp stage probably wouldn't have a good time. However, certainly a lot of valve guitar combos have a small cable running from the amp to the speaker that can be unplugged. Obviously in this situation, running a head directly into the speakers is totally fine.Oh yeah, that's what I meant. Is it common place to be able to disconnect the speaker from the head in a combo. I know not to plug a head in to a line in on a combo. Cheers though!After the holiday and I find a flat, looks like I'm buying a head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fertuiee Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 I tried one of these in the States and wasn't that taken with it actually. The Pro Guitar Shop demo makes it sound amazing though.Yeh........Ive fallen for this "pro shop guitar" ( or whatever theyre called ) mind trick before, their demos are always really good, but sometimes the gear......hmm, it was either this or the Blackout effectors one, if this is bilge then im giving up on this kind of thing....maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Oh yeah, that's what I meant. Is it common place to be able to disconnect the speaker from the head in a combo. I know not to plug a head in to a line in on a combo. Cheers though!After the holiday and I find a flat, looks like I'm buying a head...It's not common, I don't think. I've never seen it done live, but a combo is essentially a head and cab in the same unit. As Old Gold has said, alot of combos do have the speaker-out on the back of the amp, just as a head would. It's just a matter of unplugging that and connecting it to your head instead. Some of those cables from the speakers are very short though, and I believe 99% of the time, the cable is hardwired into the speaker, so you can't unplug that and use your own speaker cable. You could probably buy a speaker cable extension with two female jacks, if you really wanted to do it (if there is such a thing). Or you could just use your combo for home use, and head for when you're gigging it/jamming with a cab.I used to do it with an old Valvestate head I had, into the speakers of a some shite solid state combo where the head part didn't work anymore. It sounded fine, but I have no idea if the extension lead I used for the hardwired speaker cable was affecting the current from the head to the speaker, as it came with a pair of headphones. I have no idea of the difference between a speaker cable and a general audio cable. I didn't really care though since the Valvestate head was toss and I didn't really care if it burst into flames. I got it for £60 or something, and I still felt ripped off. Bad tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Cheers. There's been a couple of straight in to the PA jobs before. I know this is a 'n00by' question. But can you plug a head in to a combo and bypass the built in head and just use the speaker?In my experience, no. I'm sure there are combos that let you do this, but all the ones I've seen the speakers are hardwires, you can unplug the amp part of the combo and use it with an external cab though, but usually the cable that you can unplug from the built-in amp/head isn't long enough to plug it into your own head.Theoretically though it'd be easy to knock up a 1/4" M-F extension lead so that you could do that.xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ca_gere Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 I mentally sing this thread title every time I read it to the tune of 'All that she wants' by Ace of Bass. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 someone reccomend a good, value for money (i.e. the cheapest i can go without buzz from my overdrive pedal), wireless system for my bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Oh, he's not one of those tight-fisted gear-hunters is he? Like that Enkai Screamer chap who always wanted a top valve amp for about £150, and was incapable of saving money. He made me want to punch myself in the face. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Nahh. The mrs is getting me it for my birthday. If it's too much I'm not gonna ask for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam 45 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I have no idea of the difference between a speaker cable and a general audio cable.There are a few differences. Guitar leads are designed to carry very low current and are shielded. If you open up the connector you will see a braided wire (ie) the shield. Speaker cables arn't shielded (if you open up the connector you will just see 2 wires soldered to the connector) but are designed to take the high current that is transferred between the head and cab. For instance a 100W head will be looking at a current around the region of 3.6 amps. This is far too high for a guitar lead.If you use a guitar lead between your head and cab, the cable can overheat due to the high current and lead to shorting of the amp. Shorting of the amp can lead to bad damage to the output transformer and that can be a very costly fix. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Oh yeah, I knew of the difference between a guitar cable and a speaker cable in terms of the guitar cable not passing enough current. What I meant by "general audio cable" (which is a stupid term which I should have expanded on) was specifically a coily extension cable which came with a pair of headphones, which I used to use when connecting a horrible cheap as shit Valvestate head to an even more horrible, cheaper Marshall combo speaker. I'd usually take more care with gear, but since I didn't care about either of those shite amps, I used them as a means of playing at home, until they burst into flames (or until I gave them both away for free because they were shit). I have absolutely no idea the difference between a proper amp speaker cable and a 10 year old coily female/female extension cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Beat me to it Sam.As for gear I want (I don't think I've actually contributed to this thread yet so I'll probably have a lot to put into some posts):-Not with 3 pickups though, just 2 humbuckers.The one on the right with no white/silver crackle.+ Another Jackson Rhoads of sorts, another Explorer of sorts, various Les Pauls and a bunch of pedals. Urgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam 45 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 James you want a Tele? Whattttttttttttt? I know someone selling a JCM800 if you are looking for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 James you want a Tele? Whattttttttttttt? I know someone selling a JCM800 if you are looking for one.I love the look of them. I would change it quite a bit though! I'm not on the immediate hunt for a JCM, but at some point I need to pick one up. Thanks though A set of 6550s and my MXR 10 band in line and it'd be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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