Hog Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 But obviously not using an orchestra! i.e. what keyboard/way is best for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Jordan Rudess (Dream Theater's Keyboardist) is your man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 for some violin esc sounds an ebaw and a guitar can be pretty cool, as with the ebow you can get the long sustained note without any pick attack, adn with a slide it would probably sound pretty sweetnot sure about keybaords and the like thoughDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprinted Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 any sample based keyboard would be good. have a look into the alesis QS range(first one i can think of off the top of my head) however if you were willing to go for the software route I'd imagine the sampletank 2 XL would be a good option, or reason 2.5.www.provster.com go to the downloads and select a song called "work hard, play hard." the strings section in that was done by the reason 2.5 sampler (not sure whether it's the NN-19 or the NN-XT) but it should give you inspiration!good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 a mellotron, if you can find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 a mellotron' date=' if you can find one.[/quote']Ebay probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted August 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 thanks Imprinted, I will check that out. Whats a Mellotron guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 about 20 grand.Soundfonts are good if you have a compuddler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lime ruined my life Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 edirols orchestra (vsti)samples are better.a real musician is bestif im right a mellotron is like a keyboard, that pushes read heads down onto magnetic tape like you get in a casette.you can get mellotrons samples online too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sundaram Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 I will now have real Mellotron on my recordings thanks to a good friend in Edinburgh. My 7 track album entitled 'Sundaram' will be released next spring, wistful, contemplative, happy and optimistic, mixing pop, folk, jazz and indian classical music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 thanks Imprinted' date=' I will check that out. Whats a Mellotron guys?[/quote']A mellotron/novatron is a fairly simple piece of kit which uses pre-recorded loops of tape in large banks, you hold down a key and it plays the tape loop for about 7 seconds you then have to release the key so the tape can rewind (very fast)Many 70's bands used them to good effect The Moody Blues, Yes, Genesis being the most obvious examples, less obvious were bands like Uriah Heap who had their complex and often used vocal harmonies recorded on to the tapes....cheating!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprinted Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Uriah Heap who had their complex and often used vocal harmonies recorded on to the tapes....cheating!!!that must've taken ages to do - read somewhere that the mellotron tapes were a completely different size to the standard audio mastering tapes at the time so you had to send away your tapes to get them sent back in the mellotron tape size!incidentally GMedia Music have released a VSTi version called M-Tron (witty huh?) which is apparently very good...but since i aint used it (or the originals for that matter) i can't say how accurate it will be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 that must've taken ages to do - read somewhere that the mellotron tapes were a completely different size to the standard audio mastering tapes at the time so you had to send away your tapes to get them sent back in the mellotron tape size!Not sure about that one....Pallas had a mellotron....in fact it might still be kicking about somewhere...but they had the standard sounds on it....flutes, strings, choir are some that spring to mind, I seem to remember having to take the thing to bits on a regular basis because the tapes used to stick, teching for a prog band in the 70's/80's was an endless maintenance task, moog taurus bass pedals, hammond organs and mellotrons required regular fixing....in fact, as I recall when they moved on to midi (oberheim OB8 and Yamaha DX7's) things didnt get much better.... I have an easy life these days just looking after the bass player on tour or all the guitar's on 1 off gigs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sundaram Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 The tapes were/are a non standard size, and most, if not all emulations of Mellotrons miss the mark some what. Some links:http://mellotron.com/http://www.vemia.co.uk/mellotron/http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 How about backward, pitch-shifted guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 The best way I have found to make a good sounding string section, First try and find some good samples of all the parts eg: violin, viola, cello, D bass and maybe a good string pad. then start to put the parts down as per what the instrument would play like top line bass line etc, then if needed add the pad playing the basic chord progretion to thicken out. It takes a while to do but when all the parts fit together it works well..Hope this helpsMark... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted August 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Thank you everyone for all your info. I now have plenty food for thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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