ca_gere Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Aye, sorry, was meaning test socket when I said master socket.Aye, well make sure it doesn't happen again. This is serious business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted October 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 I called Orange and there's apparently a fault with the line so they're going to 'run some tests' and call me back in the next 24 hours.FM2011 demo estimated download time is 3 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Mine is shite. Been trying to get Orange to improve it for the last couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted October 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Mine has drastically improved since calling Orange, so can't complain really unless it's just happened on its own... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FatHand Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 My internet is currently uploading some files at 5kb/s... that is shocking. BT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I'm pretty sure they can log the IP of the machine downloading it, regardless of how it is connected to the internet (unless you proxy chain like mad). The consumers router will handle the local address translation so the internet will only ever see the public (ISP assigned) IP address. They'll know which connection downloaded it but not the private IP address of the machine. Since most hosts use DHCP in a typical home set up even the private IP address tells you squat, it could all be different tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 The consumers router will handle the local address translation so the internet will only ever see the public (ISP assigned) IP address. They'll know which connection downloaded it but not the private IP address of the machine. Since most hosts use DHCP in a typical home set up even the private IP address tells you squat, it could all be different tomorrow.So Jon CAN download kiddie porn. Good to know.Also, Kernal Loaf, have you still got the receipt for your Computer Science degree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseyBoi Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I'm in b.o.dThen i closed steam and many other net using things and it changed a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kernel Loaf Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 The consumers router will handle the local address translation so the internet will only ever see the public (ISP assigned) IP address. They'll know which connection downloaded it but not the private IP address of the machine. Since most hosts use DHCP in a typical home set up even the private IP address tells you squat, it could all be different tomorrow.In those circumstances, yes you are correct. However, if the police were keen on catching someone downloading/distributing CP, consider the following scenario:A user connects to an unencrypted network and downloads CP. Eventually, authorities become aware of this activity and identify the IP provided by the ISP to trace the connection. Once enough evidence of this activity has been gathered, the ISP customer is arrested and any computing devices capable of downloading CP is siezed. Computer forensics eventually determine that the customer is innocent and the charges dropped.However, they still have evidence that CP was downloaded using that particular connection. Now if they wanted to investigate further, they would begin to monitor the activity on the customer's router/ISP assigned IP address, either by maintaining a list of the MAC addresses for all devices the customer is using and identifying any connections established by devices which aren't on this list, or by turning off DHCP and assigning static local IPs for the customer's devices and identifying any external connections which were being assigned a new static IP not on the customer's list. Now if the user downloading CP was smart (which they aren't of course), they wouldn't connect to the unencrypted network frequently, however they aren't going to turn down a free internet connection. At this point, authorities can identify the user's IP on the local network, the MAC address and latency of the connection to determine the user's distance from the router in order to work out a physical location (the same building for instance) and issue a warrant to search the machine of the suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryChristmas Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Plusnet - BT broadbands cheaper whore sisterSky were always good, how far are you from malcolm road - thats where the bucksburn exchange isYou should complain, or change service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 In those circumstances, yes you are correct. However, if the police were keen on catching someone downloading/distributing CP, consider the following scenario:A user connects to an unencrypted network and downloads CP. Eventually, authorities become aware of this activity and identify the IP provided by the ISP to trace the connection. Once enough evidence of this activity has been gathered, the ISP customer is arrested and any computing devices capable of downloading CP is siezed. Computer forensics eventually determine that the customer is innocent and the charges dropped.However, they still have evidence that CP was downloaded using that particular connection. Now if they wanted to investigate further, they would begin to monitor the activity on the customer's router/ISP assigned IP address, either by maintaining a list of the MAC addresses for all devices the customer is using and identifying any connections established by devices which aren't on this list, or by turning off DHCP and assigning static local IPs for the customer's devices and identifying any external connections which were being assigned a new static IP not on the customer's list. Now if the user downloading CP was smart (which they aren't of course), they wouldn't connect to the unencrypted network frequently, however they aren't going to turn down a free internet connection. At this point, authorities can identify the user's IP on the local network, the MAC address and latency of the connection to determine the user's distance from the router in order to work out a physical location (the same building for instance) and issue a warrant to search the machine of the suspect.Computer degree or not, you know a bt tooooooo much about this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 In those circumstances, yes you are correct. However, if the police were keen on catching someone downloading/distributing CP, consider the following scenario:A user connects to an unencrypted network and downloads CP. Eventually, authorities become aware of this activity and identify the IP provided by the ISP to trace the connection. Once enough evidence of this activity has been gathered, the ISP customer is arrested and any computing devices capable of downloading CP is siezed. Computer forensics eventually determine that the customer is innocent and the charges dropped.However, they still have evidence that CP was downloaded using that particular connection. Now if they wanted to investigate further, they would begin to monitor the activity on the customer's router/ISP assigned IP address, either by maintaining a list of the MAC addresses for all devices the customer is using and identifying any connections established by devices which aren't on this list, or by turning off DHCP and assigning static local IPs for the customer's devices and identifying any external connections which were being assigned a new static IP not on the customer's list. Now if the user downloading CP was smart (which they aren't of course), they wouldn't connect to the unencrypted network frequently, however they aren't going to turn down a free internet connection. At this point, authorities can identify the user's IP on the local network, the MAC address and latency of the connection to determine the user's distance from the router in order to work out a physical location (the same building for instance) and issue a warrant to search the machine of the suspect. I never said they couldn't be traced by any means, I just said they couldn't be traced by IP address from an external location. Your scenario isn't as easy as it seems either. Varying signal strengths of different wireless NICs and possible physical obstructions would all conspire to give you a rather large sphere of influence. Someone living in a block of flats could have 20, 30 or even more neighbours within range and I don't see anyone getting more than one search warrant. never mind 30+. Also remember that it could be someone who's turned the concept of wardriving to their own nefarious needs so even less likely that a court would issue a search warrant. They could probably trace someone using RF triangulation but I doubt the police have the resources to commit to having people waiting around in someone's house/flat in the hope that the wrongdoer will use the network sometime soon. I think all the activity (police removing neighbours computer and probably the neighbour) might tip off the perpetrator so they'd likely have the sense to stop using it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Stu Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Plusnet - BT broadbands cheaper whore sisterStill, very honest about their traffic shaping. Mediocre but inexpensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Ok for Ellon I suppose. I'm with BT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Mine is shite. Been trying to get Orange to improve it for the last couple of weeks. Yaaaaas, Orange came good.... well, they sent a BT Engineer round t fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Admittedly, this is my work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 My work one.... will have to try home one later..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted November 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shealesy Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Outskirts of Ellon, up near one of the farms. The speed is bearable, the unreliability is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Le Stu Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 wow, I seem to have lost 4/5ths of my bandwidth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchanted Heart Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 In my house ..It reach to 4 GB ..>>>>Different country Yours ..too really slow >:o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Stu Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 wow, I seem to have lost 4/5ths of my bandwidth.same line, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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