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Our drummer got a job there, sorry if this crushes your dreams.

Thanks for letting me know... I was guessing with my phone being quiet that i'd missed out. Nevermind, got the 8 to 5 craic going on in this reception job just now to keep me going for now. Really feel like I've lost my way in life just now. My degree was in Law, I got a first class honours and hence no job :( really sad state of affairs. Been applying for jobs in contracts but at the moment, it seems every company under the sun wants quantity surveyors and as soon as you step inside the interview room they ask why I'm not going for traineeships in law firms... bit silly since contract law is some of the first things you study... It really is gutting, I was actually thinking back to when I was in 6th year at school and how simple everything was, I think I'd do anything to have a time travel machine go back there and do the whole uni thing again... Being a grown up really does suck!

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Thanks for letting me know... I was guessing with my phone being quiet that i'd missed out. Nevermind, got the 8 to 5 craic going on in this reception job just now to keep me going for now. Really feel like I've lost my way in life just now. My degree was in Law, I got a first class honours and hence no job :( really sad state of affairs. Been applying for jobs in contracts but at the moment, it seems every company under the sun wants quantity surveyors and as soon as you step inside the interview room they ask why I'm not going for traineeships in law firms... bit silly since contract law is some of the first things you study... It really is gutting, I was actually thinking back to when I was in 6th year at school and how simple everything was, I think I'd do anything to have a time travel machine go back there and do the whole uni thing again... Being a grown up really does suck!

Are you desperate to stay in Aberdeen?

You could try for some of the graduate training programmes. See these guys at my work all the time.

I was in much the same place as you a few years ago. Did a degree, went back a year later to study medicine... hated that and dropped out. Played in bands and bummed around for a few years until I fell into the job I'm doing now. Didn't ever feel like a "proper" job was within grasp. Really enjoyed those bumming around days looking back!

I'll tell you something, being all negative about things is the worst. It's a complete waste of energy. There is always something fun/interesting/entertaining that you can be doing to make life better whether you have money or not. If you dwell on whatever the current shitty day job is you'll never be happy! Become a work to live person.

I am definitely trying not to work on a Friday afternoon dishing out this crap advice ha ha. Do fun positive stuff and good things will fall into your lap. It will randomly work out.

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Are you desperate to stay in Aberdeen?

You could try for some of the graduate training programmes. See these guys at my work all the time.

I was in much the same place as you a few years ago. Did a degree, went back a year later to study medicine... hated that and dropped out. Played in bands and bummed around for a few years until I fell into the job I'm doing now. Didn't ever feel like a "proper" job was within grasp. Really enjoyed those bumming around days looking back!

I'll tell you something, being all negative about things is the worst. It's a complete waste of energy. There is always something fun/interesting/entertaining that you can be doing to make life better whether you have money or not. If you dwell on whatever the current shitty day job is you'll never be happy! Become a work to live person.

I am definitely trying not to work on a Friday afternoon dishing out this crap advice ha ha. Do fun positive stuff and good things will fall into your lap. It will randomly work out.

Yeah... I've proper lost my mojo, need a crazy nite out I think. I know what you're saying being negative is never good and I guess, letting stupid thoughts come into your head and tying yourself up in knots is even worse, which is exactly what i've been doing and its beginning to wind me up. A lot. I did try the graduate programs, nearest I got was Total got to the assessment centre stage and its all being downhill since then, just nothing coming out the bag at all. Thanks for the advice, what's a good starting point?

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Yeah... I've proper lost my mojo, need a crazy nite out I think. I know what you're saying being negative is never good and I guess, letting stupid thoughts come into your head and tying yourself up in knots is even worse, which is exactly what i've been doing and its beginning to wind me up. A lot. I did try the graduate programs, nearest I got was Total got to the assessment centre stage and its all being downhill since then, just nothing coming out the bag at all. Thanks for the advice, what's a good starting point?

You may have missed the graduate training boat. As all the graduates will have just started with the companies.

Could try OilCareers.com/.co.uk

Failing that phone up the HR department of some oil companies and just enquire about graduate training.

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You may have missed the graduate training boat. As all the graduates will have just started with the companies.

Could try OilCareers.com/.co.uk

Failing that phone up the HR department of some oil companies and just enquire about graduate training.

Yeah, post your CV off to all of the companies along Queens Road with a covering letter saying that you are interested in the company and would like to be considered for relevant posts. Do a bit of research on each company to show you are talking specifically about them and not just someone who has batched a bunch of generic letters.

Might take a while but that would be a good way to go.

Also I've heard it's best to stick to just one oil recruitment company. Pick one and hassle them weekly to get you a post somewhere. I'd say that for a lot of oil jobs a 1st in Law would be seen as a huge plus.

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If you're a law graduate, try talking to Alan Clark at Thorpe Molloy. He's head of their legal recruitment and a good guy. He should be able to help you out / point you in the right direction - whether it's a legal job or a contracts job.

Is there a reason you didn't do the diploma? Not fancy being a lawyer? If you go back and do your diploma, I'm sure with a first class law degree you could pick up a traineeship.

I think last year was a bit of a nightmare for law graduates and trainees - I know a lot of people who didn't get kept on after their traineeships and a lot of graduates who didn't even get traineeships, but I think things have picked up again this year, with the recruitment going back to usual. What about a paralegal job for a law firm?

I can't stress enough how much I agree with RockAustin on the negativity thing. If you're feeling negative about things all the time, it will come across in interviews. Despite the fact you hated your job at Primark, try to think of the good things about it, and what you learned there, and pass it off as positively as possible to interviewers, and think what things you've learned, be it social skills, interacting with customers etc etc.

I got a huge deal out of working in retail when I was a student - it really helped my confidence as I was forced into speaking to strangers on a daily basis etc.

Saying that, I didn't work in a place like Primark, which I can see how it could get you down! And the reception job you say you've got just now - stick it out and do the best you can. Getting a foot in the door with an agency is a massive step. If you stick it out, and keep telling them you're looking for other jobs, and you get good reports back etc. it will definitely serve you well.

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Thanks guys. Just finished the Diploma, yeah traineeships are hard to come by. I'm registered with Thorpe Molloy but been told that Alan Clark doesn't deal with legal graduates. Thanks for the advice, I'm still doing the reception thing, don't get much to do but it really is a start and the early mornings are a killer. Good money tho. Yeah, I think I've had a load of knocks to my confidence in the last year with the job situation, thinking on going over to Australia next summer and maybe taking up an internship. Got to save for that tho. I'd say I was a lot better at hospitality, think I just loved the fact it could be quiet one minute and then totally bombed the next and you got a lot of good banter out of it. With Primark, it really was a last resort and I totally regret setting foot in the place and working there. I think I thought I'd get a decent social life out of it and it would be "easy work for easy money". It certainly wasn't that, was pretty disheartening and just not enjoyable. At all. Been away about 3 weeks now and I still have a slight dose of the OCD from working in there. I've already told a family friend to only take a job in Primark as a last resort and if she's not too openminded then forget about it. The vast majority of the staff are foreign and without any disrespect, they do seem to stick together. Its pretty much a crazy hotch-potch of diversity in there and the days feel really really long. on my last day, i was questioned on why my till was 10 over from a whole week before. Could only say sorry and I can't remember, been a busy day and then bumped downstairs to work on the tables of doom. A wise friend said on me leaving,well done, it would have warped your mind if you'd stayed. Fact of the matter was... it already had.Dont think I've ever worked anywhere where I've felt really out of sorts and uncomfortable.

I think with hospitality, you give it your all and even if you're not feeling 100%, I think you get the short term gain of giving the customer quick service, good chat and the fact they've had a good nite and it all adds up, I think you can take something away from that and even if its a bad night, there's sure to be something that makes you giggle. With retail, its well... I dunno, defo not for me!

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You missed out "Dear Journal" at the start.

Aye, you're telling me! It's just a phase I'm going through... so I keep telling myself day in, day out. Its called being unsettled and out of routine or sometimes, when I get out my sleep, just plain stupid, actually I think its that most of the time. Not going to make any excuses, I always thought finishing uni would lead to a full time job I'd enjoy. Its not worked out that way and it came and bit me clean in the rear so I'm forced to making the best of it. I'm not the only one going through this and i know that someday, things will come okay. Got a week off the temping soon, so heading home to chill out and get myself in order.

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Aye, you're telling me! It's just a phase I'm going through... so I keep telling myself day in, day out. Its called being unsettled and out of routine or sometimes, when I get out my sleep, just plain stupid, actually I think its that most of the time. Not going to make any excuses, I always thought finishing uni would lead to a full time job I'd enjoy. Its not worked out that way and it came and bit me clean in the rear so I'm forced to making the best of it. I'm not the only one going through this and i know that someday, things will come okay. Got a week off the temping soon, so heading home to chill out and get myself in order.

Don't stress about it.

I graduated seven years ago.

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Aye, you're telling me! It's just a phase I'm going through... so I keep telling myself day in, day out. Its called being unsettled and out of routine or sometimes, when I get out my sleep, just plain stupid, actually I think its that most of the time. Not going to make any excuses, I always thought finishing uni would lead to a full time job I'd enjoy. Its not worked out that way and it came and bit me clean in the rear so I'm forced to making the best of it. I'm not the only one going through this and i know that someday, things will come okay. Got a week off the temping soon, so heading home to chill out and get myself in order.

on the flip side to what idol_wild said, I graduated 3 years ago and got straight into a job to do with my degree. And I am still disillusioned.

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I guess it depends on what you study and what your aims are for post-graduation.

I never went to university in order to increase the chances of me gaining related employment once graduation was achieved. I went to university purely to learn more about things and improve myself as a human being, both intellectually and socially. I possibly failed on both counts, as my learning often got sidetracked and I ended up indulging myself into subjects that were unrelated to my degree, purely because I had several quality libraries at my fingertips. Secondly, I did not socialise once with a single university comrade in four years. Not even a beer or a water after lectures or tutorials.

Although I graduated, I always felt I sort of failed university.

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Did you stay at home? Although I wouldn't go as far as you, I definitely didn't make as many friends as those who live away from home.

Yeah. I applied to universities in other cities, but my parents made it clear that they couldn't afford to give me a single penny to aid my studies, so the only way they could legally contribute towards my studies was to allow me to continue to sleep under their roof for free. And they still fed me. It was a pretty good deal in all fairness.

Pretty much all of my friends from school did the same, so we had no reason not to continue socialising together. Most of the students I met in my course were over-privileged cretins from fucking Hampshire or Sussex, so I didn't ever feel the need to reach out and socialise with them for the sake of socialising.

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I moved away for university, didn't do any socialising due to hating just about everyone I lived with in first year (largely over-privileged cretins from the south), dropped out in my final year and so didn't graduate. I reckon I win at this failing lark.

Then I fell into a job that I liked and now I do a job like that job but at a different place.

STORIES.

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I guess it depends on what you study and what your aims are for post-graduation.

I never went to university in order to increase the chances of me gaining related employment once graduation was achieved. I went to university purely to learn more about things and improve myself as a human being, both intellectually and socially. I possibly failed on both counts, as my learning often got sidetracked and I ended up indulging myself into subjects that were unrelated to my degree, purely because I had several quality libraries at my fingertips. Secondly, I did not socialise once with a single university comrade in four years. Not even a beer or a water after lectures or tutorials.

Although I graduated, I always felt I sort of failed university.

Almost exactly how I approached university, except my reasons for going were to see if I actually could gain a degree, put off full-time working and to stop my old man nipping me about having no career ambition (which I'm still waiting to acquire).

Worked 4 evenings a week and all day Sunday throughout my time there too, as well as being called up for jury service in the first two weeks of my final year and then having to catch up a bit. There was no way I could've done it if I hadn't slithered back to the parental home but otherwise it was relatively effortless.

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