Tav Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Here's a question that is probably quite simple to answer. I've got a chord progression. Lets say it's F# C# A E <because I am pretty sure that's it> and I want to play a lead melody over the top. I know my scales...how do I figure out what key the song is in and what scale to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torn Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 I think, though i'm probably wrong with this and will be corrected shortly, that those chords are in the key of E. I'm not too sure but i think it is. Best bet though is to wait until someone else tells you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 I personally tend to check for a scale that has all or most of those notes.All of those notes can be found in Emaj or E natural minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torn Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 I personally tend to check for a scale that has all or most of those notes.All of those notes can be found in Emaj or E natural minor.Yus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 I personally tend to check for a scale that has all or most of those notes.All of those notes can be found in Emaj or E natural minor. C# in Em? Anyway Tav, which of those chords are minors ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 None...all power chords in this instance...should have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 C# in Em?Um...No. oops. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 None...all power chords in this instance...should have said. A major anyway, now I think of it. If you want to show off the F# and C# should be minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Piece of piss, use F# natural minor or even simpler F# pentatonic. Also I would go with the non power chord advice. If you don't, it sounds like The Offspring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Do what I do! Hit all the string randomly as fast as you can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 A major anyway' date=' now I think of it. If you want to show off the F# and C# should be minor.[/quote']Why? I'm curious now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Sorry, I was a bit pissed last night, it could also be F#m (related minor) or EM or C#m (related minor). Once you figure out wether it's a D (AM)or D# (EM) in the scale your sorted. I was just so certain it was AM cos it's a common group of chords in that key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted July 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 So what we are saying here is that you look for a scale with the same notes as the chords are...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripey Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 So what we are saying here is that you look for a scale with the same notes as the chords are...?Yup' date=' I think so anyway....have a look at this site [url']http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/ it's for the piano but I think the scales etc still apply to the guitar...tons of scales in there for you to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted July 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Cheers. I've done Major and Minor Pentatonic <all five positions> now I am wanting to learn Minor as well as learn how to implement them over chord progressions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 So what we are saying here is that you look for a scale with the same notes as the chords are...? If the chords are in the same key (not guaranteed) then look at the notes in the chord. There should be three at least but power chords don't have a third, are they chords? I dunno, discuss. If it's in th e same key: The F# and C# must be minor, the A and E are the minor thirds. Look at the fifths as well and it means you have E, F#,A,B C# with an implied G# (I'm assuming; since it's guitar tuned to standard this is almost 100%) but still no info on the D/D# thing. A D would make it AM, a D# would make it EM. Not a lot of difference anyway cos AM is E dom7, a pleasing scale to us Neanderthal bass players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostilicus Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I'd say its definately 100% in F#m - Main reason being that the majority of modern music starts and ends on the root (F#), and it has the minor 3rd (A).Simple as that, no need to complicate it any further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Based on what chords are in your progression you could solo in E major, F# minor, A major or C# minor. Each would give a different modd to your piece.Thank you , please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted July 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 I wasn't really worried about what one that was in. More about knowing what to use in any situation. Working out the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Based on what chords are in your progression you could solo in E major' date=' F# minor, A major or C# minor. Each would give a different modd to your piece.Thank you , please.[/quote']Sorry' date=' I was a bit pissed last night, it could also be F#m (related minor) or EM or C#m (related minor). Once you figure out wether it's a D (AM)or D# (EM) in the scale your sorted. .[/quote'] Thank me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Karloff Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Thank me too.Hmmm... You know FAR too many technical aspects of musical theory to be a REAL soundman... Are you sure you're not just an imposter?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hmmm... You know FAR too many technical aspects of musical theory to be a REAL soundman... Are you sure you're not just an imposter?! I'm actually composed of plasticine filled with Jack Daniels and have painted on ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fables of Faubus Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 i cHHHHHHHHHHHMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm3rds really help for working this out!Play in Amajor,A pentatonic,A blues,F#natural minor,Emajor and so on.They'll all work over those chords! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Karloff Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I'm actually composed of plasticine filled with Jack Daniels and have painted on ears.Wow, are you Mr Potato Head...?!I hope you're also going to be doing the knob-twirling for the Misfits date at Moshulu next month... Yes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Wow' date=' are you Mr Potato Head...?!I hope you're also going to be doing the knob-twirling for the Misfits date at Moshulu next month... Yes??[/quote'] No, unfortunately. I'm too busy doing bands who could benefit from reading this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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