Music clich

[paranoid]

The majority of bigger bands i see nowadays play their first song then rip straight into the second one before acknowledging the crowd. The 2nd song usually being a heavier crowd favourite.

I'd rather listen to music than some shite patter, especially if the front-person in the band has zero personality.

[Guest Tam o' Shantie]

I'd say there is a debatable difference between a demo and a nicely packaged EP. If it's just a CDR in a plastic wallet, then it's probably a demo. If some time has been spent on the presentation to make it look like something substantial, then it can easily be considered as an EP, regardless if its self released.

If it's a fucking CDR, it's not a real release - it's a demo.

[Guest Tam o' Shantie]

This is the second wave of people pretending to like the Misfits. Years ago, people pretended to like them because of Cliff Burton's tattoo. I neither know nor care why these brats pretend to like them now, maybe Retro's had a clearout sale of Misfits clobber?

Either way, The Misfits are fucking ding and always have been.

LOL! Thumbs up for the first paragraph, thumbs down for the closing statement. The Misfits might have sucked for 99% of the time, in 99% of their ever increasing ridiculous incarnations, but Static Age is a fucking classic punk rock album, despite not being released until 20 years after it was recorded, and one of my all time favourite records.

[Soda Jerk]

If it's a fucking CDR, it's not a real release - it's a demo.

Whats the difference between a band buying a spindle of Verbatims and having an all-night CD burning party, and a band self financing a pressing plant to print the discs? Both self financed and self released. It's just a different type of disc. It's like saying anything on a clear cassette is a real release, but a solid black tape is a demo tape. It's all about how its packaged, for me. A band from Leeds called Eiger released a double CD album in these proper slick gatefold, screen printed packages. The discs inside were plain silver CD-R's. There's no way that can be considered in the same breath as a marker penned CD-R in a plastic wallet.

[Pierre Von Mondragon]

Always rip a CDR, in case all the silver shit flakes off it some time. Top Tip #665

[Le Stu]

It says quality/professionalism when you've gone to the trouble and expense of getting CDs pressed. Whether or not your music is any good, you're obviously serious about it. Plus the technical point that CD-Rs are less durable and compatible with older players.

[Old Gold]

Dave Warden.

[Soda Jerk]

Paying someone to do the hard work for you shows you're more serious about your music than putting in the graft yourself to burn, decorate and package your own CDs? I don't see how that adds up.

[Soda Jerk]

Oh, naming the song after the time signature it's in, just to remind us of how skilled you are.

[Le Stu]

Paying someone to do the hard work for you shows you're more serious about your music than putting in the graft yourself to burn, decorate and package your own CDs? I don't see how that adds up.

Well, showing you're serious enough to invest in professional means of production is a better way of stating it, I think. In terms of presentation, it kicks a CDR scrawled with a sharpie right up the crack. The same goes for cover art and packaging. Of course, it's impressive if you designed it yourself but not so much if you fabricated it yourself out of sticky backed plastic.