geo1903 Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Seriously. I always thought it was something like Damned, Damned Damned but have recently discovered The Monks album Black Monk Time.Fair shout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Seriously. I always thought it was something like Damned, Damned Damned but have recently discovered The Monks album Black Monk Time.Fair shout?ZZ Top - Fandango.To me anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monster Zero Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 That depends....what defines punk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Dust Bowl Ballads by Woody Guthrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 That depends....what defines punk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I know, I know, entirely on purpose....The Monks is actually a good shout as it's a weird and raw record even by todays standards.But you could chuck in 'Louie Louie' by The Kingsmen and 'You Really Got Me' by The Kinks as key earlier records that have that 'punk' quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer_Rosa Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Monk Chant is a ball-achingly brilliant song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Blink 182 - All The Small Things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest droid Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 The Damned....... New Rose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Monk Chant is a ball-achingly brilliant song.'I Hate You' is one of the best songs ever made."I hate you with a passion babaaaaayyyyyyy""But call me" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo1903 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 That depends....what defines punk?Whatever you make it I guess. The category was possibly born in 76/77 but the style of music with experimented with much earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 These days I think the first 'punk rock' album would have to be The Stooges (1969) - definitely nothing that any British band ever released, anyway.When you get into talking about stuff like the Monks, where do you draw the line? Yes there was garage rock, fuzz rock, psych, avant-garde stuff in the 60s...punk in attitude perhaps but was it 'punk rock'? Can you really say that this is the same stuff that 70s punk evolved from? What about atonalism? Schnberg's music was called 'degenerate art' by criticsis this dude a punk rocker?For my advanced higher music essay, I actually wrote an essay that claimed that those atonal dudes were the first musical punks...makes me lol thinking back.Let's not start this discussion again...and close this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sloth Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 That depends....what defines punk?Rock and Roll with the mistakes left in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 These days I think the first 'punk rock' album would have to be The Stooges (1969) - definitely nothing that any British band ever released, anyway.When you get into talking about stuff like the Monks, where do you draw the line? Yes there was garage rock, fuzz rock, psych, avant-garde stuff in the 60s...punk in attitude perhaps but was it 'punk rock'? Can you really say that this is the same stuff that 70s punk evolved from? What about atonalism? Schnberg's music was called 'degenerate art' by criticsis this dude a punk rocker?For my advanced higher music essay, I actually wrote an essay that claimed that those atonal dudes were the first musical punks...makes me lol thinking back.Let's not start this discussion again...and close this thread!He actually looks like an old Howard Devoto....and you are correct there is no defined definitive first 'punk' record, hence my earlier query to define punk. Because if it's the traditional definition of mid-70's ripped clothes, questionable musical ability etc, then the first British punk record was indeed 'New Rose'. American was 'The Ramones' I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 He actually looks like an old Howard Devoto....and you are correct there is no defined definitive first 'punk' record, hence my earlier query to define punk. Because if it's the traditional definition of mid-70's ripped clothes, questionable musical ability etc, then the first British punk record was indeed 'New Rose'. American was 'The Ramones' I think.In terms of straightforward NYC punk Patti Smith & The Dictators were both releasing albums by '74-'75, The Ramones S/T didn't come out until 1976.But who cares, cos The Stooges and Funhouse were both on the shelves before the end of 1970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Whilst Woody Guthrie didn't encapture the style of what we know as punk, he really carried out his music with the ethic of punk rock more notably than anyone at the time, and still more than alot have today. If Billy Bragg's early incarnations can be considered punk, then surely Woody Guthrie can too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Yeah, New Rose by The Damned is generally considered the first single to be branded "punk" - in the UK at the very least. But you could probably go back to the mid-60's garage sounds of The Sonics I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 In terms of straightforward NYC punk Patti Smith & The Dictators were both releasing albums by '74-'75, The Ramones S/T didn't come out until 1976.But who cares, cos The Stooges and Funhouse were both on the shelves before the end of 1970.I know, but I was talking about the traditional idea of punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingin' Ryan Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 The New York Dolls - S/T - 1973Watch this video and actually think how utterly jaw-dropping this must have been in 1973. Most of the audience don't know what's going on. The also totally pissed off Bob Harris when they played The Old Grey Whistle Test the same year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Whilst Woody Guthrie didn't encapture the style of what we know as punk, he really carried out his music with the ethic of punk rock more notably than anyone at the time, and still more than alot have today. If Billy Bragg's early incarnations can be considered punk, then surely Woody Guthrie can too.The age old problem with punk; most people take the 3 chords and attitude far too literally and forget that punk rock is really about a freedom of expression and a non careerist ethic towards music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest droid Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Originally punk was an anti establishment/youth rebellion movement.Now it's just a watered down genre of music....imo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 close...thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest droid Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 correct.....close thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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