MattJimF Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 On the plus side it is a good argument for the Ian Wood transformation to go ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Jesus, can't they put razorwire up or something? This is getting to be a regular phenomenon.It always has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 On the plus side it is a good argument for the Ian Wood transformation to go ahead.Not too sure if that's a plus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 They had some sort of temporary steel fencing up for a while, reckon that might go up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJimF Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Not too sure if that's a plus...That depends if your the emergency services on the duel carridge way underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I'm trying not to sound insensitive here, but I really think that chucking a net under the bridge is not the right answer. If someone is really that driven to commit suicide, they'll find a way even if the Union Bridge option is unavailable. Should we put nets underneath the likes of the Forth Road Bridge as well?I'd much rather see money going toward organisations that provide support to those suffering from depression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Stu Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I'm trying not to sound insensitive here, but I really think that chucking a net under the bridge is not the right answer. If someone is really that driven to commit suicide, they'll find a way even if the Union Bridge option is unavailable. Should we put nets underneath the likes of the Forth Road Bridge as well?I'd much rather see money going toward organisations that provide support to those suffering from depression.I can't imagine putting barriers or nets up would break the bank. Well, maybe Aberdeen Council's budget remainder.. but still. I suppose an obvious flaw to this option is that it'll just drive the problem somewhere else, like one of the multi-storey car parks. That said, at least there won't be so many cunts around to film jumpers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Chamber Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I'm trying not to sound insensitive here, but I really think that chucking a net under the bridge is not the right answer. If someone is really that driven to commit suicide, they'll find a way even if the Union Bridge option is unavailable.Exactly, if you've decided to throw a seven you'll find a way to do it regardless. The cliffs at Nigg would be a good spot. Mind you, I think I've said before that part of the "appeal" of chucking yourself off Union Bridge is the conspicuous nature of it, one last dramatic gesture for your existence to be recognised/validated. It's a horrible thing to subject people to, but if you're that far gone mentally you won't care.And as for the ghoulish fuckers filming it, that is beyond fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 There were still people filming about half an hour after he jumped from the opposite bridge as I was heading home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hobo Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Why do people jump from the union terrace bridge and not the one opposite it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJimF Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Presumably cause the drop is greater as the ground runs down then back up under the shopping centre, plus it's more attention grabbing due to the number of people going about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Yes. Union Bridge is higher.But it is still not high enough to ensure certain death and the very worst thing is if they don't land square on their heads, a lot of jumpers either end-up dying of horrible compound injuries some considerable time after, or if they survive, are badly disabled by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hobo Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Presumably cause the drop is greater as the ground runs down then back up under the shopping centre, plus it's more attention grabbing due to the number of people going about.If it were me I'd scale Marischal College and dive head first into the tarmac under the carpark entrance or The University Chapel if I were religious.My mind is quite enigmatic sometimes, if I were to run into a field of sheep shock/horror/panic would get me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 He survived it seems...Man injured after fall from bridge - Press & JournalDon't like the 'severely injured bit' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I had a quick look at where he jumped this morning on my way to work as I wanted to see if it was likely to be surviveable or not - it was behind the phone boxes, it looks as if it is a smaller drop than over the road/railway and a tree looks like it would be largely in the way at the right hand side of the raised parapet where he was when he went over. I reckon he may have had a Rambo-esque plunge through the tree branches and then deflected over the steeper drop to the rail tracks as that seems to be where he was treated according to the news report. He didn't look to be heading straight over that way so I can't help but wonder if he picked that spot to jump so the tree would break the fall as he didn't intend to actually top himself and it went a bit wrong.I think the shorter drop would have been a sore one but not likely to cause serious damage, it would all depend how he got caught in tree branches and landed I guess. Does this mean he is likely to be charged with offences due to the amount of disruption he caused? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Does this mean he is likely to be charged with offences due to the amount of disruption he caused?Suicide and attempted suicide are both illegal, so he could be charged, but his "mental state" will be taken into account. Most likely he will get off with it, despite the trauma he will have cause the emergency services and members of the public. I've spoken to firefighters who have attended "jumpers" and they say it is horrifying to have to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Suicide and attempted suicide are both illegal, so he could be charged, but his "mental state" will be taken into account. Most likely he will get off with it, despite the trauma he will have cause the emergency services and members of the public. I've spoken to firefighters who have attended "jumpers" and they say it is horrifying to have to deal with.Actually I don't think it's illegal in Scotland. I could be wrong though.Edit: according to Wikipedia it's not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_views_of_suicide#Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 The news article says someone else has been charged in relation to the incident. Wonder if that was a member of the crowd that crossed the line with regards to their behaviour at the time or something more sinister, like the person that caused him to be depressed enough to jump in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gladstone Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Suicide/Attempted Suicide is illegal in England, but not Scotland.Ironically, when the first Suicide Act was enacted, suicide/attempted suicide was punishable by death. Hmmm.A breach of the peace charge is about the worst a suicide attemptee would get (in Scotland). But I'd take a wild guess that someone trying to kill themselves has mental health problems, and will not land themselves on the end of criminal charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 The news article says someone else has been charged in relation to the incident. Wonder if that was a member of the crowd that crossed the line with regards to their behaviour at the time or something more sinister, like the person that caused him to be depressed enough to jump in the first place.I saw a guy being manhandled to the ground and cuffed. He looked like he was trying to get up on the wall as well, I got the impression he may have been an aquaintance trying to get the guy down and got lifted for refusing to co-operate with the police, he looked to be getting a tad aggressive. Of course I'm only supposing as I had no way of hearing any discussion. It makes sense that the police wouldn't want anyone else up there though. They didn't exactly look like they had any idea what to do about the situation, I guess it's a tricky one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I saw a guy being manhandled to the ground and cuffed. He looked like he was trying to get up on the wall as well, I got the impression he may have been an aquaintance trying to get the guy down and got lifted for refusing to co-operate with the police, They didn't exactly look like they had any idea what to do about the situation, I guess it's a tricky one.I think I saw him remonstrating with an officer on the tape - He was clearly trying to get-in closer.I would imagine situations like this must be high-up in the most difficult things an officer can face? I've no great sympathy with a lot of them in general but I would find it hard to wish having to deal with something like this on anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Actually I don't think it's illegal in Scotland. I could be wrong though.Edit: according to Wikipedia it's not Legal views of suicide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaOh well, thought it was illegal. I would imagine they never convict people for it due to their mental state anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain burrito Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 is there a stipulation that hmv can't play songs such as "jump" by van halen due to it's proximity to the bridge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Stu Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 That's the other reason they should stick a barrier of some kind up. It's not a 100% guaranteed fatal drop. Whether the poor bastard survived or not, I can only assume he wasn't the sharpest knife in the rack, or else he must really hate himself. Try the cliffs. Or get a flight to Switzerland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Where does it say that in the article ?(It's there - you've just got to decrypt it. It's in the headline. An anagram of "trains were delayed" is "re: News - it early. Dead."But then again I did watch all of season 7 24 at the weekend so I could still be in conspiracy mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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