Gus Chamber Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 hahah where'd the idiotic part come faeWho else? Angry Dave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Chamber Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I love Rags alluding to punk being an elitist little club , which in order to join Jake needed sponsored by two senior members before he was approved at comittee level. Says it all, n'est pas?It does, and that's why anarcho-punk is deader than a long-dead dodo...Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 It does, and that's why anarcho-punk is deader than a long-dead dodo...Not Sometimes i just want to hug you, then i remember that our body hair would end up locked like Velcro leaving us forever in a homoerotic embrace. Oh, we're naked too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I think I just threw up a little in my pants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busted Princess Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Unfortunately, Herein lies the rub of all our 'radical stances': we've all plenty to say about the child labourers of Bangladesh, but would no sooner rap with someone from (e.g.) Logie about what boils their piss than fly in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Who else? Angry Dave...I'm touched by this because he must know so much about me even though i have never spoke to him once in my life. These die hard fans of mine make me wish cocaine came in the form of Maggie Tatchers cunt.Da punks all love Maggie ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Wifebeater RIPClose the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Chamber Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Sometimes i just want to hug you, then i remember that our body hair would end up locked like Velcro leaving us forever in a homoerotic embrace. Oh, we're naked too...You can bugger off with that for a start, you deviant.As non as anything ever in the history of the entire cosmos.Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictishpunkgirl Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hey, I didn't think the shite I was spouting mattered either but you all proved me wrong! The fact that you're getting your knickers in a twist enough to bother responding en masse to my posts tells me that what I say matters. A lot. Result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hey, I didn't think the shite I was spouting mattered either but you all proved me wrong! The fact that you're getting your knickers in a twist enough to bother responding en masse to my posts tells me that what I say matters. A lot. Result!How old are you? 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 You can bugger off with that for a start, you deviant.As non as anything ever in the history of the entire cosmos.Not So, you don't want a bum then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Chamber Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 So, you don't want a bum then?"My arse is virgin and pure and that's the way it will fucking die" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 "My arse is virgin and pure and that's the way it will fucking die"Haha, nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 "My arse is virgin and pure and that's the way it will fucking die"i doubt that <--- signifies a brown shitty thumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Exposure @ Lemon Tree Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hey, I didn't think the shite I was spouting mattered either but you all proved me wrong! The fact that you're getting your knickers in a twist enough to bother responding en masse to my posts tells me that what I say matters. A lot. Result!Who the fuck hooked a PC up beside her sink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Who the fuck hooked a PC up beside her sink?Internet Fridge - buy at Firebox.comOne small step for women, one massive fail for mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Chamber Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hey, I didn't think the shite I was spouting mattered either but you all proved me wrong! The fact that you're getting your knickers in a twist enough to bother responding en masse to my posts tells me that what I say matters. A lot. Result!Nobody's getting their knickers in a twist Sweedy Pah, it's merely curiosity as to why a 42-year old resorts to personal swipes when called on the utter mince she's spouting.Don't mistake it for people attaching any importance to what you say. You're a spent force. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Nobody's getting their knickers in a twist Sweedy Pah, it's merely curiosity as to why a 42-year old resorts to personal swipes when called on the utter mince she's spouting.Don't mistake it for people attaching any importance to what you say. You're a spent force.Reputation points given.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 As an aside...The PC police decided that the terms psychopath and sociopath were derogatory and changed them to antisocial personality disorder and dissocial personality disorder respectively.This is probably the most extreme example of political correctness gone haywire. One of the main symptoms of psychopaths is that THEY DON'T CARE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO FEELINGS.***Well that's presumably why it's know as POLITICAL correctness as opposed to just plain old correctness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_86 Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 In response to earlier comments in this discussion, it isn't just anarcho punk that has begun to turn away from ethical persuasions - it has been gradually increasing in society for years, and it just so happens that a few anarcho punk bands have decided to follow suit. Its what Richard Ryder (the psychologist not the comedian, in case anyone knows of him!) calls the 'Cult of Machismo' - ie, how it's cool not to care and all that. I guess it just shows even anarcho punks aren't above following the mainstream.As for the wifebeater controversy, I have read a few posts on the point and am confused as to why people are defending against the fact that it could be seen as an offensive project for any band to take up/lead to influencing young folks views on the subject for the worse. It seems most people on here will take the high ground on freedom of speech, and also admit that domestic abuse is wrong. But is it not obvious how a band making a joke of domestic abuse could be influential upon a young persons mind, even if they don't intend to be? The main defence is that you weren't being serious/wanted to piss a few folks off - well newsflash, a lot of people into the punk scene are folks who take a lot from their music - and it doesn't matter what the intention behind it is, people hearing the songs/attending gigs etc might well take something quite sick away with them. Unfortunately your 'intentions' are not enough to stop this from happening.And on the subject of how comedians get away with being ironic, well that is exactly what comedians are - people making a living of of such things. (These two froms of performance are different in a number of ways which I would imagine have some relevance here, ie the fact people into music will take a lot of the subject of music into their hearts, such is the nature of this particular artform, whereas the same isn't generally true of comedy) Those comedians that do advocate such extreme violence promoting views, without a hint of irony, or without any back information that it is indeed just an act, are as bad as a band that does the same thing (though no modern comedians like this come to mind). And for me, when I heard of a new band called wife beater (although I must admit I am not as much into anarcho punk as others) i assumed it was a piss take to be honest, but theres not a hint of it being so anywhere, and thats where the danger comes in isn't it. People are easily influenced (as those anarcho punks that have bowed to minimal societal influence to drop ethics from their music have showed) and I can't see how anyone can really defend a band that is undoubtedly going to have this influence, regardless of intentions or the personalities of the guys in the band (who I have never met, but assume are nice enough guys from the posts I have read). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese_dust Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 regardless of our, or any other bands 'intentions' its up to the listener to make what they want though. to be honest if someone goes home after hearing wifebeater and beats their wife because of it. they are an asshole and probably would of done so anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bin Laden's Daughter Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I've seen them live and met them and I've never been struck by 'machismo' from the band- nae offense intended but that's a load of cock, sorry mate. At no point have I ever got the impression that Wifebeater were 'just tryin tae act tough'.Nothing personal- If you don't know anything about the band other than hearsay, then either take the trouble to find out more first, or don't formulate opinions based on ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_86 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 I would disagree with that cheese_dust, we live in a cause and effect world. People aren't evil, they just make choices based on their lives/experiences etc, and occasionally they do bad things - some a lot more than others obviously. If you accidentally influence someone to do something terrible, then you can't really take any massive blame or anything. But if you're ironically preaching that thing, then it is pretty obvious that people can take bad things away with them from it (depending on the situation).As for wifebeater not being manly or tough or anything, I don't see this as a great issue whether they are or not. Was simply observing the situation, it matters little whether or not they are following mainstream 'cool' opinion or not really. The 'cult of machismo' isn't particularly linked to acting macho in a tough guy way though, it was just something that I thought summed up a certain point on a good deal of modern anarcho punk.And as for not knowing anything about the band, well I know enough - thats kind of my point. I'm not hugely into them, but I do know of them, and have tried to find out whether it is ironic or not after seeing threads about gigs and stuff - purely for my own interest. And I think the points I've made are pretty valid ones to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 And on the subject of how comedians get away with being ironic, well that is exactly what comedians are - people making a living of of such things. (These two froms of performance are different in a number of ways which I would imagine have some relevance here, ie the fact people into music will take a lot of the subject of music into their hearts, such is the nature of this particular artform, whereas the same isn't generally true of comedy) So what about the rich tradition of comedic songs? Using your rationale I wouldn't be able to enjoy the likes of Kinky Friedman's They Ain't Making Jews Like Jesus Anymore (because it's anti-Semitic), Get Your Biscuits in the Oven and Your Buns in the Bed (because it's sexist) or even Dylan's Motorpsycho Nightmare (because it promotes Communism) because I love music so much and I will obviously take all of this into my heart and as a result I am unable to appreciate that the authors may have intended to be humorous or ironic. So nice try young man, but wide of the mark I'm afraid. Don't you have a sociology lecture or something to go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_86 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 So what about the rich tradition of comedic songs? Using your rationale I wouldn't be able to enjoy the likes of Kinky Friedman's They Ain't Making Jews Like Jesus Anymore (because it's anti-Semitic), Get Your Biscuits in the Oven and Your Buns in the Bed (because it's sexist) or even Dylan's Motorpsycho Nightmare (because it promotes Communism) because I love music so much and I will obviously take all of this into my heart and as a result I am unable to appreciate that the authors may have intended to be humorous or ironic. So nice try young man, but wide of the mark I'm afraid. Don't you have a sociology lecture or something to go to?That's not my rationale - my rationale is if something which isn't clearly ironic promotes domestic violence (or any other discriminatory act) then it is dangerous to some of those taking it on board, especially in a genre in which being different from the mainstream is treasured- and whether you like it or not, that's sound judgement of this situation I believe. I don't know any of those songs that you are talking of, so won't judge, but I'm sure wifebeater aren't the only band in the world that have made this mistake - however I would imagine many bands manage to be ironic without doing so.And thanks for the patronising comment at the end, but no I am not a student, perhaps you could show a little more respect to polite discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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