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HMV purchase Moshulu?


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True enough, but it doesn't make them any less the spawn of satan. I don't like their overpricing, or the irresponsible encouragement of pop pap

Oh right, fantastic. HMV is probably one of the better chain stores for pricing in my experience, got some good deals on The Wire DVDs and various CDs (No Age, Fleetwood Mac, BB King - a good range) in the past year. Irresponsible ecouragement of pop pap (who do you mean by this, by the way?) ? Yeah, they should only be pushing Atari Teenage Riot albums, right? That's what people buy, in droves!

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True enough, but it doesn't make them any less the spawn of satan. I don't like their overpricing, or the irresponsible encouragement of pop pap

I hate most popular music too Dave but they are a business. Why would a business not sell something that is "Popular". Yes it is cool to go against the grain but it won't make them money.

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And yeah, HMV ain't bad. They have a decent range or UK stuff like Hot Club, Rolo Tomassi, cpwk etc.. Still really $$$, but at least they're trying.

Exactly, obviously in most cases you can find stuff cheaper, but the convenience of finding something you normally have to get through the post normally balances it out. Plus it'll impress the distributors and help 'niche' acts get a bit more of a foot in the door!

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True enough, but it doesn't make them any less the spawn of satan. I don't like their overpricing, or the irresponsible encouragement of pop pap

Reasoned argument fail.

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I think that's what this means:

BBC NEWS | Business | HMV to snap up some Zavvi stores

(scroll down a bit)

They haven't purchased the venue, it reads more like they're just going into business with our parent company, MAMA. I very much doubt there will be much if any change in the immediate future, except for HMV selling tickets for gigs like the article says.

Saying that tho, that article is the first any of us heard about it, so I could be very wrong.

Oh, for all the concerned carpet watchers, i'd imagine this deal will be a promotions venture, I very much doubt HMV are going to start dishing out cash for upholstery around the venues. Though if it makes you any happier, we found out the other day the floor beast is moppable, so it shouldnt be quite as bad from now on. :)

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True enough, but it doesn't make them any less the spawn of satan. I don't like their overpricing, or the irresponsible encouragement of pop pap

I buy stuff off of HMV's website on a frequent basis and I think they usually have the best pricing for new releases and uncommon CDs/vinyl for a retail chain. And you get free delivery on pretty much everything.

They do fall short on selling expensive imports though, but you can usually get them cheaper if you buy from an international seller on ebay. Virgin used to be majorly overpriced for pretty much anything good though.

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HMV has been putting back in to music for a wee while now by giving unsigned bands a place to release their stuff through a deal with shellshock distribution. I think this is good if it means you can buy tickets for a moshulu gig at the same time as purchasing some cds/dvds, although I'll still get them from One-Up first.

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I don't know why everyone is moaning about HMV promoting pop acts or chart music...has anyone looked at the charts recently? There's a huge variation of music being bought by people and a lot of it fall under the huge umbrella term that is 'alternative' which encompasses rock, indie, electro and so on and which is pretty much what Moshulu is all about these days.

I think it'll be a shame if Moshulu goes all commercial and becomes a 'sponsered by HMV' type venue, but honestly, I've noticed nothing but good things since Barfly took over (apart from maybe the removal of Strongbow....but I'll get over it). And all that article is really talking about is HMV taking over the company which sells the tickets...surely it just means that there will be another place to buy them in town?

Everyone is so negative about change!

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Was just thinking though that it's somewhat ironic that HMV's music section has shrunk to that wee section upstairs in the shop. Sign of the times I guess though - folks are moving to downloads.

I think they're moving towards computer games actually. At least HMV give the impression that they're still trying with continued support of what they call "specialist" music.

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  • 2 weeks later...

As always, Mr Rass has hit the nail on the head with this already but since the first start of this thread...

Just found out,in the last 4 months we have gone from

Barfly Aberdeen

to

a Mean Fiddler venue - dropping the barfly tag as we are too big to be a barfly venue.

to

HMV / Mamagroup owned (possibly still mean fiddler venue)

to

being told to bill all current events as Moshulu presents.. and to drop the barfly tag.

All very confusing...

Anyway,

HMV popped past in the form of two directors last week.

Both were very nice people and came to see the place and meet us.

They had a look around, took some notes and they asked us what we thought could be done to the venue to make more people come and maximise buisness and we said our thoughts - which are all the things we all read about on here (toilets, carpet, general lighting, venue maintenence and etc).

They were keen on listening to us and i think when they officially become involved (a month or so away) they will actually bring a lot to the table without an awful lot changing really.

For you guys,

It doesnt change much really that the punters would notice - no name change unless they refurb from scratch (miles away if it does happen but it isnt unlikely) - apart from unfortunately yes tickets will be in hmv instead of one up. I am going to try and speak to the powers that be about this but i can guess the answer. This will happen at some point but i dont know when, until you hear differently - go to one up.

For us staff,

It changes a few things - who we answer to possibly on some levels, the way we put shows on sale, run shows, and there will (im sure) be some changes to the management structure at head office level which will no doubt change our job titles.

All in all..

From a marketing point of view - its a good move.

Bascially they have a really good online marketing / branding team whos specific job will be to make sure everyone knows which bands are playing, when and for how much.

We try to do that as much as we can using these forums, getting posters out, mailouts etc but...

The current barfly website is pretty crap and has limited info on it - there is also no way to assess how many people are actually checking it - its basically a link from my diary / calender to the public - i click confirmed on a show - you guys get to see it.

WIth a proper website itd be much better - something they said theyd do.

Theyre talking about using their tie ins with festivals to get more bands up here - also a good thing.

They also said when they start to stock tickets, the artists catalogue will be given prime

place in the store so when punters go in they will see what shows they can buy tickets for and also what records they have out - i think this includes locals.

So id imagine i can speak to them about stocking local cds for local line ups too - something one up do admittedly but hey ho.

So, yeah, its a big corporate company muscling in on something but in a way i can see their logic. And to be honest, from my point of view - if theyre going to do all ticketing and help with marketing - it makes my job a lot easier.

Like a lot of people including myself, they see potential in the venue.

I think everyone agrees the venue has spades of it.

Maybe theyll be the ones , along with the mamagroup guys, to make the best of the place - they certainly have the know how.

In the meantime, its up to us to keep the venue as busy as possible and as well maintained as possible - which everyone is doing - and i think if we can keep our figures up (january has been quite healthy despite having no gigs) then theyll reciprocate and well see the benefits in due course.

Maybe theyll even get rid of the carpet...

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