framheim Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Scotland's 'aggressive' Punk beer faces ban - News, Food & Drink - The Independentfucking joke to be honest. i can't see how they can honestly believe that a company specialising in real ale can be promoting irresponsible drinking when there's much much worse out there.bah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I read the article, then came across this fascinating feature:The Ten Best Blouses - Features, Fashion - The IndependentThe whole thing is a bit of a farce - anyone who is drinking their products are hardly the sort of folk who indulge in mindless violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 No self interest at all from the Portman Group there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Exposure @ Lemon Tree Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 absolute bastards! Leave them to get on with their successful business!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 No self interest at all from the Portman Group there...Exactly - Fuckem!Remember who they are:Portman Group:Full members:Allied DomecqBacardi Brown Forman BrandsBeverage Brands (UK) LtdCarlsberg UKCoors Brewers UKDiageo Great BritainInBev UK LtdPernod Ricard UKScottish & NewcastleAssociate members:Mitchells & ButlersThresher GroupUnion Pub Company/Pathfinder PubsJD Wetherspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stichman Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Did they take into account how much it would cost to get hammered on Punk IPA? It ain't cheap...This is total bollocks. Your average appreciator of fine ales is not the same Tennents-fuelled drunken teenager that pisses through your letterbox on a Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I don't like the style of their advertising/marketing, but this really is disgraceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 so, what legal obligation is there to follow any rulings from this group? anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Also remember that Portman expressly allows some of its members to do what it forbids everyone else.when they promoted their ban on alcohol advertising on kids replica shirts, they left one out - Carlsberg, on Liverpool gear. Of course, Carlsberg's parent just happens to own one of the Portman Group's members - Scottish & Newcastle.Life must be nice when you are one of the cunts on the other side of the fence where the rules don't apply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 so, what legal obligation is there to follow any rulings from this group? anyone know?They have been given some legal control over advertising & media exposure. Don't think they can do anything about sales in non-member places.The Portman Group themselves were formed as a pretty desperate attempt to deflect stricter legal controls on the big drinks companies - back in the days when they were targeting kids with alcopop advertising. the "pre-drinking" market if you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 They have been given some legal control over advertising & media exposure. Don't think they can do anything about sales in non-member places.The Portman Group themselves were formed as a pretty desperate attempt to deflect stricter legal controls on the big drinks companies - back in the days when they were targeting kids with alcopop advertising. the "pre-drinking" market if you will.surely something like wkd made by beverage brands would be just as guilty as any of the brewdog ales yet they're advertised on prime time tv channels and a full member of the group. hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 surely something like wkd made by beverage brands would be just as guilty as any of the brewdog ales yet they're advertised on prime time tv channels and a full member of the group. hmmm.Yup - fully agree.However I think it more likely they are hitting someone without the resources to fight back - See they are also having a go at Skulsplitter as well. Clearly they didn't bother to find out about that name being as much of a term of endarment as anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Exposure @ Lemon Tree Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 "Have you got a wicked side" etc etc with all those "wicked" jokes that it encourages you to play on your mates is just cheeky advertising....Fuck off and leave the Brewdog guys alone to get on with making their beer!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 This is a fucking farce. I'm pretty much just agreeing with everyone else here.It just so happens that they launched this as the drinks were getting increasingly popualr as well as the founders winning an award in business.I think everyone should go out and buy/drink some brewdog. I'm gonna have some at the moorings on Friday. Hopefully they've got some Physics on pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 I don't know much if anything about this Punk IPA, but from what I read in that article, it hardly seems fair.Being persecuted by a self-regulating body with a large self-interest is a joke. They should take this to the Parliament and tell Portman to get to fuck, or make Portman go up to the Broch and tell it to their faces! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Essentially you're saying that Portman group should be stabbed in the spleen with a dirty needle?Like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Pardon my COMPLETE ignorance...but what the fuck is Brewdog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 BrewDog Beer - Award winning breweryBeer/ale brewery based in Fraserburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Pardon my COMPLETE ignorance...but what the fuck is Brewdog?GoogleOr alternatively, try reading the article first And no surprise really from the Portman Group - as other people have said, is there a bigger case of self interest than this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Anyway, if we're looking at irresponsible drinking, shouldn't we be looking at that Octopussy Night at Pearl?I've seen a few Bebo comments from them which literally say, "let's get wasted on 1 drinks!!!!"Surely Portman should be sticking their noses in there.Although I promote irresponsible drinking because it's fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 GoogleOr alternatively, try reading the article first This annoys me.What's the harm in asking someone in the thread what something relevant to the thread means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 This annoys me.What's the harm in asking someone in the thread what something relevant to the thread means?It's the way that all he needed to know was in the article, but he obviously couldn't be bothered to read the article to actually find out.It's a bit pointless asking a question when the answer is already there and linked to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 I didn't know what Brewdog was, so I read the article. Would you believe it, I know more about Brewdog than I did before I read the article.For a change, Cloud is actually right, and not being an arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scootray Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 That has to be his new avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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