Ollie Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 hi,I just bought the 'This is the exile recording studio' compilation CD from OneUP. Some quality bands on it. I really liked Patterns in pavements. Was good to hear AKA the Fox, Deadalus, Fiction/Action and Valentine. Ollie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Is this a new compilation or something that's been around for ages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted May 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I am not sure, just saw it for 2 pound on the promotional stands at the entrance of one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 must be relatively new. all the patterns and pavements stuff has been recorded there within the last...6 months, maybe!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Seems strange putting a load of songs by now defunct bands on it then, but i guess it's to advertise his studio rather than the bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 even stranger that as far as i'm aware permission was never sought. i shall have to chase that up. he's a cheeky bugger is that mark nicol.and it's spelt dedalus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 yeah, i asked chris (patterns in pavements) about it and he had no idea either...dodgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 free publicity, take it while you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted May 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I don't think it's a bad thing. It's good that the good bands in Aberdeen had/have a place to go to record and practice, in an environment that takes an interest in your music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Any of the bands MCPS registered? Income stream unless otherwise agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer_Rosa Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Mark told us about it quite a while back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 free publicity, take it while you can.yea i don't think anyone from dedalus would mind given that it's a defunct band and if kartta are on it i'm sure they won't mind either but we should have been asked particularly if it's being sold rather than given away. though i don't imagine at 2 a pop it's going to be making a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Von Mondragon Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Defunct is the new Funk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idol_wild Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Mark initially asked Kartta if he could use his recording and mix of Henri Got Cancer. But we wouldn't re-record one of the guitar parts so he took a hissy fit and used Dedalus instead.That'll be his form of permission, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Mark initially asked Kartta if he could use his recording and mix of Henri Got Cancer. But we wouldn't re-record one of the guitar parts so he took a hissy fit and used Dedalus instead.That'll be his form of permission, I guess.heh, i'm not sure what song he's used of dedalus either as it's just called new one on the cd cover and i couldn't be arsed buying one to find out. i'll maybe pop into one up tomorrow and have a listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 free publicity, take it while you can.free but pointless if the bands no longer exist surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 free but pointless if the bands no longer exist surely?I imagine the point of the CD is to promote Exile Studio rather than the bands that are on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I imagine the point of the CD is to promote Exile Studio rather than the bands that are on it.yeah exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupot Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Technically, recordings are like photographs. They're owned by the guy who made them.However, if you use a recording on a commercial CD you're obliged to pay royalties to the artists playing on it and to the holder of the intellectual property rights, eg the songwriter. It doesn't matter if the band still exists or not.Even if the CD is free you should still seek permission of the song's owner to put it out. It may be for instance that they hate that particular recording and don't want it in the public domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 If they song has been copyrighted Songs are copyrighted as soon as they're recorded. You don't have to register copyright in the UK, the mere act of creating a work is enough to protect it in UK law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Songs are copyrighted as soon as they're recorded. You don't have to register copyright in the UK, the mere act of creating a work is enough to protect it in UK law.indeed, the real trick is proving copyright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 indeed, the real trick is proving copyright.Not really.From the MCPS/PRS website:How do you protect your music as a songwriter?Currently, no official form of registration is available. In the UK, all original music is protected by copyright from the time it is recorded/written down in some format. It is important to be able to prove that you own the copyright of a particular recording. To do this we suggest the following: * Send a copy of the recording to yourself by 'Special Delivery'. Clearly mark the envelope so you know what music it holds but keep it sealed.and/or * Store a copy with your solicitor or bank manager. Remember to keep a receipt and be aware that this method is likely to cost you some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Not really.From the MCPS/PRS website:what do you mean not really? surely you just gave an example of the trick for proving copyright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 But we wouldn't re-record one of the guitar parts so he took a hissy fit .Yep, sounds like Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Yep, sounds like Mark.if he is the producer then he has all the right in the world to tell you to redo a bit if he thinks its not up to sratch, i would have thought folk would have been happy for someone to be that picky rather than just mix it up and forget about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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