TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Currently I'm using a cheap SM58 knock off to record vocals, I was wondering what people would recommend in terms of a proper mic for recording vocals? I assume that a condenser mic is best. Any tips about the best way of recording, apart from using a good mic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairyScaryMark Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 It depends on the voice really.Some voices sound best with a dynamic mic and others with a condensor. It depends.Also depends on your budget.The fact you only have a cheap 58 copy suggests to me that it might be worth getting a real SM58 or 57 as I imagine it will be useful to you for situations other than just recording.I am going to asume you budget to not much greater than the SM58 as you haven't stated it.For that price you could get something like an AKG C1000, Oktava MK-012 or Studio Projects B1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skuzzlebutt Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 sm58beta is pretty good, you can pick one up for about a hundred bux... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huw Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 A question about live microphones - is the Shure SM58 the best option for live performances in that kind of budget or is there better? I would be shouting/'screaming' and stuff, maybe some singing, it would all be pretty loud i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalepeano death Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 For live shouty vox e.t.c try Audix.Om7's work really well and so do the cheaper Om2's . They sound much better than 58's and 57's and have better off axis rejection.Probably a bit shite for recording though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 for studio work you can get a rode nt1a with a shockmount for 120 quid, AKG perception 200 is similar but marginally cheaper.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted October 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 for studio work you can get a rode nt1a with a shockmount for 120 quid, AKG perception 200 is similar but marginally cheaper....Cheers Stripey, that is the sort of thing I'm looking for. I;m a total novice when it come to this sort of thing/Vocals are really the only thing that I need a mic for, as everything else I record, I just DI with my POD. That's why I was looking for something vocal specific. And in terms of the type of vocal I'm recording, it will be Marie-Claire, the singer in Panda Eyes 99% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairyScaryMark Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 ' date=' post: 430852"']A question about live microphones - is the Shure SM58 the best option for live performances in that kind of budget or is there better? I would be shouting/'screaming' and stuff, maybe some singing, it would all be pretty loud i guess.I personally much prefer Sennheiser E845 over the Shure SM58. I have never tried a shure beta mic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupot Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I rarely pick up anything other than a sontronics orpheus to record vocals. It costs about 250 these days, but sounds like a neumann, has more features than a neumann and works on just about everybody's voice as well as kick drums and guitars. If you run it through a decent tube pre amp, it warms up nicely too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Was going to mention Neumann but Stupot got there first. The sontronics sounds interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupot Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Was going to mention Neumann but Stupot got there first. The sontronics sounds interesting!They do very nice tube and ribbon versions too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 A good condenser would certainly be worth your while. The problem I tend to have when recording vox with an SM58 is that I get too much emphasis on the "ess" and "puh" sounds (if you get what I mean).Having said that, the SM58 is a hugely versatile mic - all the vox on my Myspace tracks have been recorded at home on an 8 track with an SM58.Mike, the singer in my proper band, uses a Sennheiser (spelling?) thing that our soundguy bought him. It cuts through amazingly well live, although we've not used it for recording as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 A good condenser would certainly be worth your while. The problem I tend to have when recording vox with an SM58 is that I get too much emphasis on the "ess" and "puh" sounds (if you get what I mean).Try using a popshield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 I do, but for me it's still not quite the same as a decent condenser. Having said that, I'm not too fussed about things sounding absolutely spotless, so I've not bothered splashing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairyScaryMark Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I think you will find that certain dynamic mics are widely used on voice in professional studios. Differnet voices suit differnet mics and ideally you can try the microphones out on your own voice before buying them. You just wont be able to do this in any shop in Aberdeen. Sound Control should let you do this however.Shure SM7b has probably been the most popular in recent times. I heard it was used on St Anger by Metallica, (some) Fall out Boy, Deftones, System of a Down, Thriller by Michael Jackson amongst others. Also used on just about all growl vocals.EV RE20 is also a similar dynamic mic and quite popular.Sennheiser MD440 is also a reasonably popular dynamic mic sometimes used on vocals.It is also widely rumoured that the lead singer of Aerosmith used a Shure SM57 close up and 2 sennheiser mics of an unknown type further away.However I think it would be a waste of money to spend that sort of money on a microphone so you are probably looking at something like Studio Projects B1 which a lot of people speak quite highly of for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted November 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 for studio work you can get a rode nt1a with a shockmount for 120 quid, AKG perception 200 is similar but marginally cheaper....I went with the Stripester's advice and bought a AKG perception 200, it seems really good. Thanks again for the advice Stripey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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