Larsen B Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 I turns out you get your degree result on your portal. I got a 2:1 in Law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Some degrees seem pointless, like the person earlier in the thread who doesnt plan to use it. What a waste of money (taxpayer and personal), unless the fun and experience of being a student was worth it?they didn't say they didn't plan to use it. as cloud pointed out, many jobs require a degree, but not in a specific dicipline. having an arts degree (supposedly) shows you're intelligent, can manage your time, do your own research, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Medical degrees there cant even be an argument.Agree with the above - because meds have to work bloody hard in the field as part of their degrees.My post was partly tongue-in-cheek and aimed mainly at the IT (my field) arena.As a veteran Software Engineer who interviews and recruits regularly, I find myself totally demoralised by the quality of CV's from students looking for their "big start". Some can't even spell their own names.It goes back to Dusty's valid point earlier in this thread, about Uni's being run as businesses wiith "rack'em, stack'em & pack'em" attitudes. Students are no longer wards of the educators, merely performance league table stats.For shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Or you know...god forbid you should go to University for the love of the subject? Hell, it's the main reason I've decided to stay on to do an MLitt in Creative Writing. Not the most marketable subject, but I love it so why the hell not? And as for folk talking about Uni's being marketed like businesses, is this aimed at the newer Universities like RGU, Abertay etc...? Or do reckon the 'old boy' uni's like glasgow, edinburgh, aberdeen and st. andrews are heading the same way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 And as for folk talking about Uni's being marketed like businesses, is this aimed at the newer Universities like RGU, Abertay etc...? Or do reckon the 'old boy' uni's like glasgow, edinburgh, aberdeen and st. andrews are heading the same way?Just my opinion, but I would say the former polytechnics are the worst offenders, but the others are heading that way as well. And I say that as an Aberdeen graduate.As a general rule though I would still say quality control is higher at Aberdeen than RGU ie it's easier to get into RGU than Aberdeen. Not all courses, but most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulscoconutass Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 I think it's designed so that 18 is actually 70, and 9 is worth 40%, with 12 being worth 50% and 15 worth 60% - so it's the same system really.At Aberdeen University everything is marked on a scale from 1-20, with each mark being 5%. A 1st is 90-100% (18-20), 2.1 is 75-85% (15-17) 2.2 is 60-70% (12-15) and so on. As far as I'm aware RGU mark between a 1 and 6 with a 6 being a 1st, 5 a 2.1, 4 a 2.2 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intravenous Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Yes, that's how it's done at proper universities. Is that aimed at Universities that use percentages or those that don't ?It seems silly to me to add in an extra numbered grade to base your degree mark on when really its all worked out by percentage anyway. Especially when all the universities use different standards:At Aberdeen University everything is marked on a scale from 1-20, with each mark being 5%. A 1st is 90-100% (18-20), 2.1 is 75-85% (15-17) 2.2 is 60-70% (12-15) and so on. As far as I'm aware RGU mark between a 1 and 6 with a 6 being a 1st, 5 a 2.1, 4 a 2.2 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metarie Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Or you know...god forbid you should go to University for the love of the subject? Hell, it's the main reason I've decided to stay on to do an MLitt in Creative Writing. Not the most marketable subject, but I love it so why the hell not? And as for folk talking about Uni's being marketed like businesses, is this aimed at the newer Universities like RGU, Abertay etc...? Or do reckon the 'old boy' uni's like glasgow, edinburgh, aberdeen and st. andrews are heading the same way?Exactly, I'm sick of people almost making a sympathetic 'aww, poor you' face when they hear what my degree is in. Fuck you, I've always loved literature, I like finding out the motives behind why it was written and learning more ways of interpreting text. It may not be the most exciting subject in the world but I like it and I'm pretty good at it. There's no point in studying something just because you think you should.Incidentally...I've noticed it's mostly people who haven't been to uni (or who have been and have dropped out) who make a big stink about rubbishing people with degrees or saying how worthless a degree is...my ex in particular slags off 'organised education' after dropping out of uni a few years ago.Some folk do well in a university or college environment, some don't. I'm equally chuffed about my degree results as I am about becoming a duty manager at work, it makes no difference. I've achieved something I'm proud of, so I'd appreciate people not pissing all over it. And that's not aimed at anyone here particularly, it's just in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartmaxwell Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 degrees are all fine and well, but its what you do to get the next step. too many people think they are worth employing because they have a degree, and as a result dont put in the effort or the PROPER research needed to win an interview panel over. a degree proves that you can work to deadlines and are reasonably focused and (depending on which subject you do) intelligent.it doesnt prove that you are the person for the job, that you are proactive/assertive or can be trusted in a role of responsibility with clients/a project/the reputation of the firm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 degrees are all fine and well, but its what you do to get the next step. too many people think they are worth employing because they have a degree, and as a result dont put in the effort or the PROPER research needed to win an interview panel over. a degree proves that you can work to deadlines and are reasonably focused and (depending on which subject you do) intelligent.it doesnt prove that you are the person for the job, that you are proactive/assertive or can be trusted in a role of responsibility with clients/a project/the reputation of the firmI agree.Especially in the field I hope to get into (computer games/3d animation), they take a quick look at your list of qualifications"uni degree, helps"then skip STRAIGHT to your portfolio to see the standard of work you are producing and how much intiative you've taken to develop work and skills in your own time.I've always thought of Uni as a set of deadlines to work towards. Whilst I've learned and developed most of what I know and can do in my own time, I am too unfocused and erratic to complete projects in my own time, and would just end up with heaps of unfinished but varied projects that wouldn't do me much good.You should see the standard of some of work that has earned a design degree though. Horrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 At Aberdeen University everything is marked on a scale from 1-20, with each mark being 5%. A 1st is 90-100% (18-20), 2.1 is 75-85% (15-17) 2.2 is 60-70% (12-15) and so on. As far as I'm aware RGU mark between a 1 and 6 with a 6 being a 1st, 5 a 2.1, 4 a 2.2 etc.I think the marking system is shocking to be honest. It isn't a fair reflection of the students actual abilities.For instance I know people that have gotten a 20/19/18 for an exam but ended up with a 12/13/14 overall. Likewise for essays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metarie Posted June 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 exams are marked in a different way to essays though, as most people do better in work they can prepare for properly like course work/essay/presentation,the marking is stricter than it is for exams. They take into consideration the time you have to plan and write the paper so the grade is based on content and knowledge and understanding rather than structure etc.Most people find that they get better results in exams than they expected for that reason, although it's an accurate evaluation of your knowledge of a subject, it's not always the best way of testing people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Owl PhD Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 exams are marked in a different way to essays though, as most people do better in work they can prepare for properly like course work/essay/presentation,the marking is stricter than it is for exams. They take into consideration the time you have to plan and write the paper so the grade is based on content and knowledge and understanding rather than structure etc.Most people find that they get better results in exams than they expected for that reason, although it's an accurate evaluation of your knowledge of a subject, it's not always the best way of testing people.I guess this varies from one subject to another, and I've heard different views on this, but I reckon a good exam answer is as close as possible to a good essay answer. Excepting things like referencing and spelling, the best students generally produce something close to what they produce in an essay under exam conditions, so to me that's kind of the benchmark. I find that most people do about the same on essays as on exams, although there are people who have a lot of trouble with the latter and usually underperform. There aren't many people in my subject area who consistently do a lot better on exams than essays though, which perhaps shows that the latter is a more reliable test of someone's ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodast Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 exams are marked in a different way to essays though, as most people do better in work they can prepare for properly like course work/essay/presentation,the marking is stricter than it is for exams. They take into consideration the time you have to plan and write the paper so the grade is based on content and knowledge and understanding rather than structure etc.Most people find that they get better results in exams than they expected for that reason, although it's an accurate evaluation of your knowledge of a subject, it's not always the best way of testing people.I think that makes exams better. I mean, who really cares if you can list the themes of uh... Ulysses or whatever, it's more important to be able to respond to a question with a well structured argument in one hour. Same with translations (maybe irrelevant to a lot of people but I do a lot of them) - it's not that important to be able to do a perfect translation using your dictionary and grammar in three days. When you're working (and I know it's important to love your subject but it's kind of a priority to keep a career in mind) you are probs going to have time limits and be working in a way more similar to in exam conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodast Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Excepting things like referencing and spelling...Oh also, I think that if someone knows a word well enough to use it in an essay, then they should know how to spell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Owl PhD Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Oh also, I think that if someone knows a word well enough to use it in an essay, then they should know how to spell it.Yeah, I think that too but it depends on the importance of the word and the other qualities of the writing. A bit more leeway can be allowed when people don't have spell checks to use.I agree with you about exams being a good test of people's abilities to respond to a question there and then. But then coursework can show what people can produce when given the time. I think coursework is also a better learning experience for students, because of the feedback that they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allstardawn Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 i got a B for my HNC Social sciences and considering i ran out of time on my geography paper and only did a quarter of it, i'm dead chuffed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Kong Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I passed my diploma in legal practice, for which the grade does not matter in the slightest, which means that I can start my traineeship in August and become a boring suited lawyer. With reference to spelling in exams, I feel that a person should be marked down for poor spelling. Everyone is taught to spell at school and if you're rubbish at it, read a dictionary until you improve or don't do a course which is essay based. The standard of spelling in this country is getting to be beyond a joke, as is the commonplace acceptance of "text-style" spelling. I may sound like an old person, but it really angers me when people don't bother to learn to spell correctly. Fair enough, if someone is dyslexic, allowances can be made but otherwise spelling should be taken into account and criticised when wrong.With reference to the use of degrees, there are some which seem to serve little purpose in applying for a job. A degree can show you have research skills/time management skills/whatever other skills a degree gives you, but since everyone and their dog can get a degree these days, what differentiates one candidate from another? This seems to be especially evident in non-specialised degrees where there is not a logical career path to take after one finishes. Everyone wants to live the student lifestyle so everyone goes to uni without knowing which career path to take. They all choose a fairly general degree, pass the course and come out at the same place as they started - level with all the other prospective candidates. Only one applicant will get the job, so everyone else will go back to working in a shop/bar/restaurant like they did before university and what did uni do for your career? Nothing. Sorry if that was boring. I probably won't read this thread again as I rarely come online, so if you want to have a rant at my opinion, feel free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottST Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 i finished second year on journalism....over the 8 modules done in the year, i got a 3, 2 5s and 5 6's. ( a D...*bah*, 2 B's and 5 A's)pretty happy:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 They all choose a fairly general degree, pass the course and come out at the same place as they started - level with all the other prospective candidates. Only one applicant will get the job, so everyone else will go back to working in a shop/bar/restaurant like they did before university and what did uni do for your career? Nothing.You've got to be in it to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Failed all 3 of my 3rd year exams. I blame this due to one of the modules being rediculously hard, meaning time was wasting trying to learn it and sacrafising time to learn the others. Also I could of done a lot of work during the semester before I was bogged down with CW (which I passed!). Ahh well, I only have to resit two and in my final year I will be coming back with a vengence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 I got a 2.1 in Biochemistry. Sooo happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 i got a B for my HNC Social sciences and considering i ran out of time on my geography paper and only did a quarter of it, i'm dead chuffed!Well, done. the dunser will be chuffed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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