Stripey Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 By now you will have all grabbed your pirated copies of Brians new release, what are your favourite tracks off it and what are your all time favourite tracks by the don of british singer/songwriting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Well, I've managed to go off him recently due to his Nazi rubbish and his support for his buffoon of a son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brymon Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Not a very good thread this when you have spelt his name wrong!!And i should know thats why im called Bryan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Not a very good thread this when you have spelt his name wrong!!And i should know thats why im called Bryan!!You were named after Bryan Ferry?! Tell me Ferry is your middle name. I know nothing of the man's recent musical output. Should I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 i stopped taking him seriously when i saw him advertising for marks n sparks!nice cover of 'the times they are a changing'and i enjoyed his wee cameo in 'breakfast on pluto' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 And what are your views, Stripey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brymon Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 You were named after Bryan Ferry?! Tell me Ferry is your middle name. I know nothing of the man's recent musical output. Should I?No, I dont have a middle name! Whats wrong with being named after him anyway?My mums been in love with him since she was like 20 or so!!Could have been worse i could have been called Elton!!!!!Not keen on much of his new stuff, love Roxy Music Though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Well, I've managed to go off him recently due to his Nazi rubbish and his support for his buffoon of a son.Didn't he just say that he thought some Nazi art was fairly snazzy, not say that he thought that the Nazi regime was the bee's knees? His son is a 5 star dickhead though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Didn't he just say that he thought some Nazi art was fairly snazzy, not say that he thought that the Nazi regime was the bee's knees? His son is a 5 star dickhead though.Yes, and he's right aswell, the Nazi's created one of the biggest and most successful visual brands of the 20th century, along with cocacola and nike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 we all know where this is going.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Didn't he just say that he thought some Nazi art was fairly snazzy, not say that he thought that the Nazi regime was the bee's knees? His son is a 5 star dickhead though.Yeah, he praised Albert Speer's work amongst others.It's a bit off calling his recording studio "Fhrerbunker", but his other comments aren't really controversial. Typical for these things, people get caught up in the hysteria and not the detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummerOfIntenseEvil Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Yeah, he praised Albert Speer's work amongst others.It's a bit off calling his recording studio "Fhrerbunker", but his other comments aren't really controversial. Typical for these things, people get caught up in the hysteria and not the detail.Exactly. If you were to point out that Hitler was a fantastic public speaker, reactionary idiots would suddenly start calling you a Nazi, when in actual fact Hitler's prowess on the public stage was probably the main reason he got elected in the first place (I've heard his speeches were near hypnotic, because his voice reached an unignorable pitch/volume).And anyway, considering Hitler wanted culture to be one of the lasting hallmarks of the Third Reich, it'd be a pretty poor show if there wasn't some pretty good art to come out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Exactly. If you were to point out that Hitler was a fantastic public speaker, reactionary idiots would suddenly start calling you a Nazi, when in actual fact Hitler's prowess on the public stage was probably the main reason he got elected in the first place (I've heard his speeches were near hypnotic, because his voice reached an unignorable pitch/volume).And anyway, considering Hitler wanted culture to be one of the lasting hallmarks of the Third Reich, it'd be a pretty poor show if there wasn't some pretty good art to come out of it.He was undeniably a great public speaker, in fact, he was probably the greatest German public speaker of the 20th century. Brandt was probably the closest to him, but even he didn't have the same power as Hitler did. Others such as Adenauer and Honecker weren't even in the same league as hmi, so to speak.The parallels between Nazi and 'Socialist' culture in Germany are absolutely crazy though, especially when you compare Speer's work to some of the stuff built in East Berlin. It's a shame that nothing lasted of Speer's in Berlin, though.Actually, in hindsight, calling his recording studio "Fhrerbunker" is just bloody stupid. Considering Hitler hardly did anything great from the bunker, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummerOfIntenseEvil Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 He was undeniably a great public speaker, in fact, he was probably the greatest German public speaker of the 20th century. Brandt was probably the closest to him, but even he didn't have the same power as Hitler did. Others such as Adenauer and Honecker weren't even in the same league as hmi, so to speak.The parallels between Nazi and 'Socialist' culture in Germany are absolutely crazy though, especially when you compare Speer's work to some of the stuff built in East Berlin. It's a shame that nothing lasted of Speer's though.Actually, in hindsight, calling his recording studio "Fhrerbunker" is just bloody stupid. Considering Hitler hardly did anything great from the bunker, after all.He never owned a sand wedge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Anyhoo, getting this back on topic and away from the Adolf Hitler Appreciation Society, I would say that Ferry is one of the best around at cover versions - A Hard Rain's A-gonna Fall, Smoke Gets in Your Eyes, Lets Stick Together, Jealous Guy, all great. And his album of "standards" from a few years ago was brilliant too. But that's not to take anything away from his original material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted April 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 He was undeniably a great public speaker, in fact, he was probably the greatest German public speaker of the 20th century. Brandt was probably the closest to him, but even he didn't have the same power as Hitler did. Others such as Adenauer and Honecker weren't even in the same league as hmi, so to speak.The parallels between Nazi and 'Socialist' culture in Germany are absolutely crazy though, especially when you compare Speer's work to some of the stuff built in East Berlin. It's a shame that nothing lasted of Speer's in Berlin, though.Actually, in hindsight, calling his recording studio "Fhrerbunker" is just bloody stupid. Considering Hitler hardly did anything great from the bunker, after all.W I K I P E D I A W I K I P E D I A W I K I P E D I A W I K I P E D I A W I K I P E D I AWhat are these parallels between the national socialist party and socialism that you speak of, and how does this have any relation to architecture?Come on Cloud.It's fair enough to use wikipedia to double check facts and perhaps make some references, but the way you are using it just results in you coming out with this sort of nonsensical babble about things you clearly have no actual knowledge of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 What are these parallels between the national socialist party and socialism that you speak of, and how does this have any relation to architecture?Christ, take one walk through Berlin, that tells you all you need to know. Look at the Nazi Air Ministry on Wilheimstrasse building for instance - heck, the fact that the GDR's Council of Ministers used it says a hell of a lot. Considering they were all German anyway, it's hardly a surprise that there's a ridiculous amount of similarities.But while we're at it, look to see if you can find footage of NVA soldiers standing guard outside the Neue Wache - they even goosestep, for crying out loud. What about the similarities between the FDJ and the Hitler Youth? Or the fact that they both saw sport as being of the utmost importance? Don't forget that the GDR came 3rd in...not sure of the exact Olympics, but it was around 68 or 72 I think? Their football team even beat the West German team in the World Cup. Or even the fact that they both required absolute loyalty to the regime? The Soviet Union even built their war memorial in Treptower Park from some of the red marble of the Reich Chancellory, which, if my facts are right, was also used in one of the U-Bahn stations.Even from the descriptions of the Reich Chancellery that I've read, it sounds remarkably similar in idea to the (sadly) dismantled Palast der Republik (home of the GDR's Volkskammer), though they obviously reflected the times that they were in. Most of what I've said there comes from Amazon.co.uk: The Berlin Wall: 13 August 1961 - 9 November 1989: Books: Frederick Taylor and actually visiting Berlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cloud Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 What, don't you know enough to reply intelligently? I mean, making yourself look stupid by not even posting properly what you were trying to use is a fair enough tactic in a debate, but... edit : from the aforementioned book, page 82...In the Stalinallee (formerly Frankfurter Allee) a huge, high-rise residential building project was emerging from bombed-out ruins. Designed in 1930's Stalinist 'wedding cake' style, with neo-classical touches that quoted the Prussian master Schinkel, on a scale that hinted at Albert SpeerAny 'idiot' can see that there's a ridiculous amount of conmparisons between the Third Reich and the GDR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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