Sam 45 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 My computer aint quite up to scratch with all this music techology programs ect, lacks in RAM mainly. What is the recommendation towards Apple computer? Are iMacs the way to go? Should i be looking for at least 1gb of RAM or what?Any advice would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest b-bert Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Macs are better which is why someone would recommend one.But then again they may not have your software of choice available for it. Is upgrading RAM in your machine not an option as it would be far cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Depends on your budget but try to go for as much ram as you can.Very different beasts though so mke sure you absolutely want to (can) change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Don't waste time with mac's, they are overpriced computers for women and trendy fashion victims. Their reputation for being somehow superior for creative applications is also total bullshit. For the same money you can get a more powerful PC that will run more, easier to obtain software, which takes cheaper spares and addons and has a mouse with more than one button. The only reason which even slightly justifies getting a mac, is if you want to use the latest versions of Logic, which you would probably only be interested in if you've been a logic head for years anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Oh here we go...And don't listen to him. He doesn't use the same logical underpinning as most...Personally I can't abide pc's and I have to use both but I suggest that you find out which suits you best.*opens ignore list and adds, again* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 And don't listen to him. He doesn't use the same logical underpinning as most...Personally I can't abide pc's and I have to use both but I suggest that you find out which suits you best.*opens ignore list and adds, again**sigh*.I've been using computers from the differing perspectives of programmer, graphic designer and musician for something like 15/16 years, I know what I'm talking about thanks. Q - What's the worst part about owning a Mac? A - Telling your parents you're gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 *sigh*.I've been using computers from the differing perspectives of programmer, graphic designer and musician for something like 15/16 years, I know what I'm talking about thanks. Q - What's the worst part about owning a Mac? A - Telling your parents you're gay.Oh okay then... That's me told your Highness o_O I couldn't give a rats-ass how long you've been using computers you argument/advice is still that of an eejit :laughing: *not adding to ignore list just yet* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I'm with Stripey, Macs are overpriced and overhyped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Stax Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 It's simply a matter of preference. The difference that I have come across is that pc owners get quite angry about Mac's when talking about them. Mac owner "okay, whatever, make mines a pint". I have been Mac from day one and have tried pc.s and just don't like them. My Mac's happily do everything that is asked of them and some. Oh, and they look sexy... :laughing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam 45 Posted March 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 If i was to go Mac id be selling my bass gear to buy one, and it'd be a second hand one at that. Can Nuendo run off a mac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 If i was to go Mac id be selling my bass gear to buy one, and it'd be a second hand one at that. Can Nuendo run off a mac?Steady now...Have a look in the apple store refurb sectionApple Store - U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Ignore Stripey, he doesn't like anything that's popular.You have to ask yourself what you'd use the computer for. PCs are better for some things, Mac's for others. Although really what you are asking is should I use Mac OS X or Windows XP/Vista as that is now really the only difference between the two - the hardware is near identical.From the age of 8 I've regularly used PCs but have recently bought a MacBook as I needed a laptop. I've never regretted that decision and it does everything I've ever wanted and lots more. I've been so impressed that I will seriously consider replacing my main desktop PC with an iMac when the time comes. I only ever use my Windows PC for playing games now (the Mac still has few games available for it).Ask yourself what software you think you will use on a day-to-day basis. Can you get this software for the Mac as well? If not, is there a good alternative? Investigate what you need to be able to do and then make a decision. I don't make music on computers but I'll tell you one thing. I've gone to a lot of gigs where musicians have laptops on stage and the vast majority of these laptops are Mac's of some description. Why is that? Because they are fashionable? Or because they get the job done? I think it may be the latter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam 45 Posted March 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Basically i need my computer for; the internet, holding all my music and for recording music ect. For the music bit, if a mac runs Nuendo then that would be great, i would probably also want to run Protools and some form of program that i can use to program drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Basically i need my computer for; the internet, holding all my music and for recording music ect. For the music bit, if a mac runs Nuendo then that would be great, i would probably also want to run Protools and some form of program that i can use to program drums.It would appear that v3 of Nuendo is only compatible with the older PowerPC based Mac's, but Nuendo v4 is coming out later this year and will support all Mac's. You can also get ProTools for the Mac:Digidesign | | News | Pro Tools and Most Digidesign Development Partners Plug-ins Now Compatible with Intel-based Macs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I don't make music on computers but I'll tell you one thing. I've gone to a lot of gigs where musicians have laptops on stage and the vast majority of these laptops are Mac's of some description. Why is that? Because they are fashionable? Or because they get the job done? I think it may be the latter...It's because they are fashionable, it's just the myth that they are "computers for creatives" that has been perpetuated for years despite being totally untrue. From a musicians point of view, given that most people are on a tight budget, buying a PC instead of a mac means you get more bang for your buck and have more money to spend on a decent audio interface. FYI my two music production machines are a 1.7ghz centrino laptop with a gig of ram, and an athlon xp 2200 desktop with half a gig of ram. Both these machines are not exactly cutting edge spec or expensive, but I never have any resource issues with my music software. Choosing the right hardware for the job is not simply a matter of preference.And yes, there is a mac version of nuendo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 It's because they are fashionable, it's just the myth that they are "computers for creatives" that has been perpetuated for years despite being totally untrue. From a musicians point of view, given that most people are on a tight budget, buying a PC instead of a mac means you get more bang for your buck and have more money to spend on a decent audio interface. I would have thought that for most musicians cost would be a very important factor, so why are most of them apparently buying the more expensive Mac? And I would have also thought, in a live music setting especially, that the ability and reliability of the hardware and software in question would be paramount and certainly more important than appearing to be "fashionable". But hey, what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I think it's arguable that most people who use laptops to play music onstage are in fact utter fashion victims anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I would have thought that for most musicians cost would be a very important factor, so why are most of them apparently buying the more expensive Mac? And I would have also thought, in a live music setting especially, that the ability and reliability of the hardware and software in question would be paramount and certainly more important than appearing to be "fashionable". But hey, what do I know.Well I've never had any reliability problems with either of my production machines. Very few of the producers and dj's i know use macs, and those few that do are usually using them reluctantly because they are Logic users and the latest versions have dropped PC support.Like I said, there is a myth perpetuated that macs are the best computers for creative applications, which hasn't been true for years, but unfortunately gullible people still believe this and end up wasting wads of cash on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF Scott Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I think it's arguable that most people who use laptops to play music onstage are in fact utter fashion victims anyway.Not really, though. Not at all, in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elzwood Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Macs v PC'sLast year I got fed up of all the hassle i got with my PC and decided to get a Mac but before I did i asked around my friends and all those who had a Mac thought it to be far superior to a PC so I opted for a Mac and absolutely love it. I wouldn't like to go back to a PC although my hubby and son both use PC's. So much less hassle with a Mac though, they just don't seem to get viruses at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam 45 Posted March 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Any ideas of good drum software for the mac? I don't fancy using Reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Not really, though. Not at all, in fact.I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Last year I got fed up of all the hassle i got with my PC and decided to get a Mac but before I did i asked around my friends and all those who had a Mac thought it to be far superior to a PC so I opted for a Mac and absolutely love it. I wouldn't like to go back to a PC although my hubby and son both use PC's. So much less hassle with a Mac though, they just don't seem to get viruses at all.That's your primary mac demographic here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Any ideas of good drum software for the mac? I don't fancy using Reason.Depends what sort of drum sound you want to acheive, although I would go for something like Recycle, and a multisampler such as NI Battery, or Linplug RMIV as a minimum, assuming you're going to. be using Nuendo. You would want a few good sample cd's of drum machine single hits and so on, and possibly some collections of breakbeats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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