Guest Neubeatz Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 I think there's a strong distinction between "act" and "artist" Yes the Fudge Awards always go to "acts" too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager420 Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 I agree with all eccept Primus. I may be bias being from the same gereral area of California as them, but there music is awsome. Les Claypool is one hell of a bass player, their old drummer Larry, and new drummer Brain are both top notch. Give them a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Ha, not far off probably, add the likes of Marillion, Queen, Dido and The Beautiful South and you're just about there.Although Jester gets extra points for having dave Devant and His Spirit Wife in his car. I worked it out I have stuff by 10% of that list, though how anyone can say that Rick Wakeman is one of the worst artists is beyond me - I'm not actually a fan of him or Yes' music but the man can play. Tin Machine were underrated and might have been an interesting band had people not had expectation about Bowie, all in all a bunch of people wrting a list and I bet they have never heard most of the people on it. Tis a good album that DD&HSW album, I also have the very rare second one around somewhere I do wonder if everyone here saying "I agree" etc have actually heard most of the stuff on there ? Especially as most of it seems to be the standrad 'cool press' copyist stuff, with serious innaccuracies too, The Living Years wasnt written by Micheal Rutherford it was written by Scottish songwriter the great BA Robertson, so is unlikely to be about Rutherfords dad !CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 I worked it out I have stuff by 10% of that list, though how anyone can say that Rick Wakeman is one of the worst artists is beyond me - I'm not actually a fan of him or Yes' music but the man can play.Aye, he can play all right - utter drivel. Self indulgent, flashy rubbish. While wearing a cape and eating a curry. I don't care if you can play a million notes at the same time and can play notes that never existed before or have ten thousnad synths on stage at once - if the tunes are shit it means nothing. Evrything about Rick Wakeman's music is shit and he fully deserves to be on the list. I mean, he did a fucking opera on ice about King Arthur or something, didn't he?He's a scream on Grumpy Old Men, though.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Aye, he can play all right - utter drivel. Self indulgent, flashy rubbish. While wearing a cape and eating a curry. I don't care if you can play a million notes at the same time and can play notes that never existed before or have ten thousnad synths on stage at once - if the tunes are shit it means nothing. Evrything about Rick Wakeman's music is shit and he fully deserves to be on the list. I mean, he did a fucking opera on ice about King Arthur or something, didn't he?He's a scream on Grumpy Old Men, though....................Just because the tune means nothing to you doesnt mean it means nothing to other people though, this sort of list is so subjective, there are enough people who still rate what Wakeman does that he sells out gigs throughout the world and still makes more than a good living. Yeah, some of the stuff is self indulgent but the nature of music is to be self indulgent, if it isnt then your in it for the wrong reasons surely. As I said I wouldnt listen to Wakeman by choice but I know enough people who are phenomenal keyboard players who really rate him as a musician/writer that I think that he has to be respected for what he does. Unlike many musicians he's also great at taking the piss out if himself, he did a great bit on Never mind the buzzcocks a few years ago with Bill Bailey complete in Wizards outfit. CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 I like the guy, he's very amusing and I did enjoy his NMTB appearances. He is of a rare breed that can take the piss out of himself. On that note, the man himslef has admitted that some of his musc is shit. I've read it in Q amongst other places.Lengthy, dual keyboard solos. Please! Just remembered he was fantastic on This is Your Life too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 I do wonder if everyone here saying "I agree" etc have actually heard most of the stuff on there ? Especially as most of it seems to be the standrad 'cool press' copyist stuff, with serious innaccuracies too, The Living Years wasnt written by Micheal Rutherford it was written by Scottish songwriter the great BA Robertson, so is unlikely to be about Rutherfords dad !CheersStuartThe "great" BA Robertson... Mmm this is the writer of such 80s novetly works as "Cool in the Kaftan", "Knocked it Off" and "Bang Bang". "The Living Years" is cringeworthy lyrically and mediocre musically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilsgremils Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 While I probably wouldn't agree with some of it (i.e. I enjoy the Doors at least some of the time), I think that it's a good list because there's something at stake. They didn't just go for easy pickings (like William Shatner, whom's version of "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds" is oft voted the worst recording ever). For instance, Malmsteen is adored by legions of wannabe guitar heroes. The list especially goes after prog rock - I know a lot of people who like prog rock. Some of the bands, while middle-of-the-road, had at least one good (or even great) song. It wouldn't be worth making a list like that if it didn't have anything controversial on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 The "great" BA Robertson... Mmm this is the writer of such 80s novetly works as "Cool in the Kaftan", "Knocked it Off" and "Bang Bang". "The Living Years" is cringeworthy lyrically and mediocre musically.Former DJ and lifelong tosspot, BA Knobertson o_O Did he not get fined for hyping his own records ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 The "great" BA Robertson... Mmm this is the writer of such 80s novetly works as "Cool in the Kaftan", "Knocked it Off" and "Bang Bang". "The Living Years" is cringeworthy lyrically and mediocre musically.To be fair he has done a bit more than that, Welcome to the official site of ba robertson he's even worked for the Mouse !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 To be fair he has done a bit more than that, Welcome to the official site of ba robertson he's even worked for the Mouse !!!!"At the 1989 Grammy Awards, "The Living Years" had four nominations, including Song of the Year. BA was pipped for the statuettes by good friend Arif Mardin and "The Wind Beneath My Wings". In London, at The Ivor Novellos, “The Living Years” topped 1990 Grammy winner "Another Day in Paradise" for Best Song."Fucks sake - imagine listening to those three dirges in the one sitting o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 To be fair he has done a bit more than that, Welcome to the official site of ba robertson he's even worked for the Mouse !!!!The Mouse? I just remember him from Saturday Superstore and he seemed a tad odd then. You must admit though, he's hardly in the "great" category of ...anything. And finallly he wrote some Cliff Richard songs...i rest my case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 The Mouse? I just remember him from Saturday Superstore and he seemed a tad odd then. You must admit though, he's hardly in the "great" category of ...anything. And finallly he wrote some Cliff Richard songs...i rest my caseI was dragged along to see him live in Edinburgh a couple of years ago, not knowing anything about him, and he was really good, tis true he wrote some Cliff songs but 2 of the better Cliff songs He also wrote the legendary 'I have a dream'. tbh I was quite surprised at how much he has actually done and the amount of people he's worked with, that being said I didnt buy the album CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 And finallly he wrote some Cliff Richard songs...i rest my caseCarrie and Wired for Sound are great songs. But having read the biog he still sounds like a tosspot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Carrie and Wired for Sound are great songs. But having read the biog he still sounds like a tosspot.Carrie? Did she not used to have a room on the 2nd floor?Apparently she moved on without leaving a forwarding address.The bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 If only this guy had written We Don't Talk Anymore he would have completed the hat-trick of late-70/early 80s Cliff classics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 ...like William Shatner, whom's version of "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds" is oft voted the worst recording ever...These people have obviously never hear Leonard Nimoy's "contributions" to music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 These people have obviously never hear Leonard Nimoy's "contributions" to music......or those dreadful Snooker-player songs - "147" by Alex Higgins or "Snooker Loopy" o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Carrie and Wired for Sound are great songs. But having read the biog he still sounds like a tosspot.have you heard cliff's latest attempt to sabotage and terrorise the christmas hit parade '21st century christmas'? ken bruce played it the other day and ken knows what the kids want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 have you heard cliff's latest attempt to sabotage and terrorise the christmas hit parade '21st century christmas'? ken bruce played it the other day and ken knows what the kids want!The only saving grace of Ken Bruce being on radio 2 is Pop Master at 10am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 The only saving grace of Ken Bruce being on radio 2 is Pop Master at 10am.i was on pop master back in 2000 and got tanked by some burger van owner from nottingham. what was even more frustrating was 1) the burger van owner's questions were easier than mine and 2) i would have got the three in ten that day and the burger van owner failed miserably.on the upside i got a signed photo of ken and a microphone keyring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I've always considered going on pop master, but I fear I don't have the minerals and would freeze under pressure. Although, a signed photo of the Brucester would be pretty cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I've always considered going on pop master, but I fear I don't have the minerals and would freeze under pressure. Although, a signed photo of the Brucester would be pretty cool...worth doing, ken is such a pro he puts you right at ease!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 These girls got a record contract; YouTube - Vanilla - No Way No WayWhere the heck are they on that list?I prefer the remix0:59 seconds is the money maker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 worth doing, ken is such a pro he puts you right at ease!!!The problem is I know I'll be cunted with a catagory like "one hit wonders 1973-75" and no reassurances from Kenny boy will help me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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