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Yeah, certainly makes sense. She clearly knew something about him. It's been a while since I've read a book where the ending wasn't clear cut.

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I've read American Psycho a few times, though not for more than a decade. The first time I was 15, maybe 16, and while I basically got the humour and the point, I didn't really enjoy it - a bit too deadpan over the whole novel and some of the writing (more the sex scenes where no one dies, weirdly) made me legit quesy.

I had a flatmate at uni who was a huge fan of the film version and in my last year I read it a couple more times for my dissertation and liked it a lot more - I also just spent a lot of time just picking passages at random and getting lost in them. That passage above in which he's parading around with a severed head on his cock made it in to my undergrad dissertation; can't remember what I said about it...

Regards the end: it's pretty much impossible to tell between 1 and 2 (in those spoiler tags). I tend to prefer 2. I don't think 1 even occured to me until the guy I mentioned above pointed it out as the obvious one (in the film version it's a lot more strongly implied that 1 is what's going on, IIRC).

Maybe try and check out Glamorama and Imperial Bedrooms if you enjoyed American Psycho. Easton Ellis ended up being one of my favourite writers back in the day, on the strength of American Psycho and Glamorama (which I read just the once, can barely recall at all; but I do remember liking first time and more than American Psycho, initally at least). Imperial Bedrooms is more recent, and short and sweet (or dark and disturbing, but readable). His first couple (less than zero and The Rules of Attraction) I didn't care for.

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I read Less Than Zero a couple of years ago. Did not enjoy. I've never read anything else of his though. The film of American Psycho isn't that great, but Christian Bale is superb in it.

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I saw American Psycho YEARS ago and remember enjoying it but not being compelled to watch it again but I will be doing so now after having read the book. Will add Glamorama to my reading list for the future too.

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Bale cast as Bateman was perfect.

The film is annoying - and I'm very glad I read the book before watching the film because I may have avoided the book after seeing the film. I see the book as quite funny, satire on a specific generation of NYC yuppies. The film is just about an American dude who is a psycho.

My call on the ending is number 1 above, which is also a little annoying but the best fit for me/my interpretation of the book.

I'm no expert on literature, but I think it's all the layering and the fact it IS open to interpretation on various levels of the layers that makes it so good to read/accessible despite the horrific actual words.

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On 4/25/2016 at 10:19 AM, Lemonade said:

Taking a break at the 50% mark. Tough read. Shit book. Reading "Billy" by Pamela Stephenson to cleanse my pallet. It's a biography of Billy Connolly written by his wife who's also a psychologist. It's surprisingly dark.

Finished "Lisey's Story" by Stephen King. Shit. Also Finished "Billy" by Pamela Stephenson, which was good and "The Irish Scissor Sisters" by Mick McCaffrey, which is a true crime book about a famous murder case that happened in Dublin a few years ago.

Now reading "Revolutionary Road" by Richard Yates. I'm only just starting it but its beautifully written so far.

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21 minutes ago, Lemonade said:

Finished "Lisey's Story" by Stephen King. Shit. Also Finished "Billy" by Pamela Stephenson, which was good and "The Irish Scissor Sisters" by Mick McCaffrey, which is a true crime book about a famous murder case that happened in Dublin a few years ago.

Now reading "Revolutionary Road" by Richard Yates. I'm only just starting it but its beautifully written so far.

 

Quote from that Wikipedia article:

"The killing only came to light ten days later when Noor's leg, with a sock on the end, was seen floating in the canal, a few hundred yards from Croke Park. Garda sub-aqua divers retrieved most of the rest of his body in seven parts. Noor's head and penis were never found."

I live just up the canal from where he was murdered and his body parts dumped, though it was before I moved here. Though somewhere around the area his head and dick remain.

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Currently reading To the Lighthouse by Virginina Woolf. Tried it a while back but moved onto something else so I've gone back to it.  It's beautifully written, I'm just not really sure what's going on!

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I'm getting through Great Expectations in stoats 'n' bangs just now. Ironically, I don't really know what to expect as it's the first Dickens I've read.

 

Seems pretty funny, in a Dickensian sort of way.

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Guvnors was entertaining enough, if a bit predictable. Just started a book I've wanted to read for ages; the Energy bus by Jon Gordon

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Finished the Energy Bus which was a good and relatively short read. Some great reminders in there, especially for anyone running a team at work or outside. Now onto Switch by Chip and Dan Heath, about strategies for driving change.

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Started on The Education of a Coach by David Halberstam yesterday. It's a biography about Bill Belichick and Halberstams stuff is usually awesome. It's been good so far.

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Been reading a lot more this year than I have for a while, I started by re-reading most of the Shannara series after the TV series, some of them are excellent, some seem like Tolkein rip offs, I can see why they didn;t film Sword, they'd probably get sued, but it's enjoyable fluffy fantasy with some interesting characters.

I then went on to finally reading the Rivers of London series by Ben Aaronovitch, I am a fan of Ben's Dr Who stuff and had heard good things about these, and in fact have had them all in hardback for ages, and been to see him talk twice at the Edinburgh Book Festival but still never read them. I really liked them and really looking forward tot the next one. I am also now reading Ben's Remembrance of the Daleks Target Adaptation as well which i'm really enjoying for the extra details he has put in.

I have been buying a few of the new Sherlock Holmes books from Titan as they're written mostly by authors I really like from the Big Finish Dr Who and Torchwood audios, I've really enjoyed the George Mann ones so that lead me onto his Newbury and Hobbes books so I am also halfway through the first one of those.

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"Porno" by Irvine Welsh.

Recently put away "Michael Schumacher: The Edge Of Greatness" by James Allen; "Harry Potter & The Philosopher's Stone" by JK Rowling; and "Past St Combs" by Scott G. Buchan. Got a bit stuck on "Revolutionary Road" and put it down for a while. I might return to it but I wasn't really feeling it. I found it a bit dry and slow. Pages and pages of descriptive text, not much dialogue, and nothing really happening. I've seen the film so I know the ending anyway :laughing:

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20 hours ago, James Broonbreed said:

How was Past St Combs? I think I only read about half of Liquid Kids due to it being a PDF.

Very good, worth a read, although the stuff about his own life in it is more interesting than the actual story. All his stuff is on Lulu.com for £2 for epub, you can convert them to .mobi files for Kindle online for free. 

http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?contributorId=420185

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I'm slowly trying to work through all of Stephen King's extensive back catalogue, which does meander across into fantasy a few times. I'm really not a fan of fantasy, I've tried and given up with the Dark Tower series so many times. Currently I'm working through "The Eyes Of The Dragon" which is a tale of a young prince who is being groomed to take over the throne, however the King is murdered by his right-hand man who frames the Prince for it, allowing his much-more easily manipulated younger brother to take over the Kingdom instead. Not something I would usually read, but to my surprise I'm racing through this.

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Because of my weird obsession with keeping records of everything, here's my current Stephen King reading stats:

Novels: 27 / 36    
Novels as Richard Bachman: 6 / 7
Novels with Peter Straub: 0 / 2    
Dark Tower novels: 1 / 9
Short story collections: 6 / 11
Non-Fiction: 0 / 4
Novellas: 0 / 7

Total: 40 / 76

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I've lagged way behind in my reading due to moving the length of the country and job hunting. Finally cracked back on with the NOFX book and I'm about 2/3 of the way through. Blimey, it is dark as fuck, and that puts it very lightly. They were all involved in some pretty heavy antics back in the 80s. It seems miraculous that they weren't killed, several times over, all of them, especially Erik Sandin. 

Each member writes a chapter at a time, and the next chapter sort of follows on. On a few occasions, what one of them thought happened actually didn't happen, or not how they thought it did. Example, (huge spoiler incoming if you're planning on reading it) Erik Melvin thought that an acquaintance of his, Raymond, a huge, gnarly, dangerous guy who killed people for fun, tried to rape his girlfriend Iris, but Iris told Melvin that she managed to escape. Fat Mike clarifies in the following chapter that she actually was raped, but she didn't want to tell Melvin, because he would try to confront Raymond and then most definitely be killed. The book then states that Melvin didn't find this out until it was put in print in this book.

LA in the 80s sounds like a warzone.

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Readings Dostoyevsky's The Idiot.

Bit of a slog as a transition from night shift to day shift has had me reading it in stots and bangs. About a quarter of the way through, seems like typical Fyodor fare, lots of characters and pompous dialogue. Not quite sure what I'm expecting to happen. Hopefully I can be nearly finished by the time I'm back onshore as this will provide yet another restriction to my reading regimen.

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