liam Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Nae bad like! Thats Them in the shop window for next season, and with Man Utd Saying they would have paid 25m for Tevez, theyve made a fantastic signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Mascherano (or something like that). Defensive midfielder? They will shine at West Ham. Wee soft spot for the Hammers actually, I just love Christian Dailly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted August 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Thats the guy! aye, him and Reo-Coker in the middle, Tevez just off the strikers.....look out chelski!!! haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 With Dailly playing right back, left back, centre back, striker, goalkeeper, long term injury sufferer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted August 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 What....A....TEAM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Mascherano is a fantastic player, possibly Argentina's best at the world cup. He appeared to be hte perfect player for Man U, a replacement for Keane. It's great for West Ham and brings an exciting new angle to the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 gotta be the coup of the day, be interesting to see how they take to cold november afternoons in the north of england. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 gotta worry when my teams best move of the day was getting rid of liam miller i think the two of them will deal fine with english premier league without too much worries. both very strong characters me thinkslets get rumour mill go with these two. so far ive heardthe russian owns 15% of msi who owned rights to the pair and didnt want them going to either arsenal or unitedmsi planned the deal to make there take over of west ham happen sooner or latermoeny situation. shop window as mentioned by laim up top. brought over so can be sold on for huge profits this time next yearor are we just all too cynical and maybe have west ham just captured one of the best deals of recent times? who knows! ?( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 the russian owns 15% of msi who owned rights to the pair and didnt want them going to either arsenal or unitedmsi planned the deal to make there take over of west ham happen sooner or latermoeny situation. shop window as mentioned by laim up top. brought over so can be sold on for huge profits this time next yearI think those have hit the nail on the head. Apparently both have £35million releases in their contracts, i reckon you'll see both move next summer for minimum bids of around £20million each depending on whose buying, obviously less for someone outside the Premiership. Good business sense for West Ham, but it is a bit mercenary, and it's not a great move for the players in my opinion.It makes you wonder though, should anyone other than a club actually be able to own the rights to a player? In this case as both were being leased to Corinthians its an odd situation the player isn't likely to get the best out of the deal, and it just seems like a slightly more 'legit' (i use that term with a bit of caution) version of slavery, albeit one where the player does actually get paid a decent wage, but how much say did Tevez and Mascherano actually have in this?Weird state of affairs if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I've no idea how it works. If either player really didn't want the move would they be forced into it? Similar to Major League Soccer (that's in the USA!) where the league "own" all the players.Certainly a good deal for West Ham though, even if they do move on soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam 45 Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I've no idea how it works. If either player really didn't want the move would they be forced into it? Similar to Major League Soccer (that's in the USA!) where the league "own" all the players.[\QUOTE]I do thinkt he MLS has a say in the players moving. Don't they just "own" them to keep contracts spiralling out of control or something. Like what happened in the leage befroe the MLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Not sure Sam. I think they just like to do it their way because they are American! they'll be calling it the "Soccer World Series" next! I suppose football would benefit from having that sort of regulation on contracts so that there wasn't so many ridiculous transfer fees and salaries and the ever growing divide between rich and poor clubs. In the MLS there seems to be a lot more emphasis on "trades" and they also have a cap on the amount of overseas players allowed at one club. The sponsorship over there is pretty ridiculous though and as a result the teams don't seem to have any identity and clearly no history (as the teams change names and cities every second season!) I learnt all this from a brief obsession with www.metrofanatic.com following Peter Canero's transfer from Dundee Utd to NYNJ MetroStars (who are now Called New York Red Bull!). He's not very popular out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 As predicted.http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/5306356.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam 45 Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Not sure Sam. I think they just like to do it their way because they are American! they'll be calling it the "Soccer World Series" next! I suppose football would benefit from having that sort of regulation on contracts so that there wasn't so many ridiculous transfer fees and salaries and the ever growing divide between rich and poor clubs. In the MLS there seems to be a lot more emphasis on "trades" and they also have a cap on the amount of overseas players allowed at one club. The sponsorship over there is pretty ridiculous though and as a result the teams don't seem to have any identity and clearly no history (as the teams change names and cities every second season!) I learnt all this from a brief obsession with www.metrofanatic.com following Peter Canero's transfer from Dundee Utd to NYNJ MetroStars (who are now Called New York Red Bull!). He's not very popular out there.NOOO, why did New York have to change their name. I've got a New York Metrostars strip, now im behind in the times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5309852.stmMan U turned down the chance to sign Mascherano. Ferguson really has lost it now, he's twice the player Carrick is and is exactly what the Man U midfield required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 The club wouldn't own them though. Ferguson was quite right to turn them down.Man United don't need two one season players for them to be shoved to some other club. And to be fair, Ferguson knows how to manage a team better than you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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