Hog Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I love a can of worms.I like Slayer, damn good band but I do think that SYL are better.Devin, better vocalist, not monotone. He is also an amazing guitarist, sweeping, tapping scales etc.Araya, solid bassist, hate his vocals, awesome song writer.King/Hanneman- Samey solos but great riff writers, better than Jed Simon although Jed is solid as a rhythm guitarist.Drums (fave part)Gene Hoglan vs Dave Lombardo. Hoglan pawns Lombardo. He was Lombardo's drum-tech and taught him double bass. Even the Slayer guys said that Hoglan was more natural on the kick drums. Songwise, mmm, maybe Slayer. SYL have had some bad stuff (self titled album) although Dev is known for working too hard and leaving it to the band to write songs, bipolar moments. I really like Alien, it was damn close to City regarding quality. Slayer have also made some great albums, RIB, SOH etc.I tried not to be biast, feel free to say what you think. (but dont have a fit, yes Im a minority) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Devin KILLS Araya vocally. Dev has to be one of the best vocalists in metal if not THE best.King and Hanneman can be good. I love Hanneman's riffs. I can't name one riff by SYL that outdoes many Slayer riffs (Angel Of Death slower hammer on one to name one).Lombardo does some quality stuff for sure. Gene is better IMO though.It's a tough one to call to be honest. I prefer Slayer from a guitarist point of view. More people that aren't guitar players will much prefer SYL I imagine though. Fuller things going on with them.I agree with SYL's self titled being iffy, but then again Slayer have Diabolus In Musica so...As a guitarist brought up on 80's thrash - Slayer wins for me. I love SYL though! Alien is one of my best purchases of the last couple of years (I think I prefer it to City).If it's a question of E106 fanboy-ness then the correct title should be 'SYL vs Metallica'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinzHines Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 At least slayer have good bits...all of SYL is shite! I rate neither! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_matter Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 slayer were good a wee while back but since discovering syl i would say they're the better musicians and lyricists, as slayer tend to ramble and moan about god. Although slayer win for me, based on past material rather than newer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 slayer rule. SYL are for cottaging homosexuals that live with their mothers. Fact** Not really a fact but it get's people riled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_matter Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 i was majorly disappointed when i heard cult from there forthcoming album. It sounded so gay screaming about how fake god is, I felt they were pushing it to look cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.M Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 i was majorly disappointed when i heard cult from there forthcoming album. It sounded so gay screaming about how fake god is' date=' I felt they were pushing it to look cool.[/quote']...o_O I don't think I can bring myself to another comment right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_matter Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 ...o_O I don't think I can bring myself to another comment right now.what's up? IMHO I feel that slayer are pushing the swear words and god bashing to the point of embarrassing. That's not to say they aren't an amazing band, I just think there going down a really different and wierd direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Both are boring, generic metal for the Sunny Delight generation. Listen to Rupture instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I love a can of worms.I like Slayer' date=' damn good band but I do think that SYL are better.Devin, better vocalist, not monotone. He is also an amazing guitarist, sweeping, tapping scales etc.Araya, solid bassist, hate his vocals, awesome song writer.King/Hanneman- Samey solos but great riff writers, better than Jed Simon although Jed is solid as a rhythm guitarist.Drums (fave part)Gene Hoglan vs Dave Lombardo. Hoglan pawns Lombardo. He was Lombardo's drum-tech and taught him double bass. Even the Slayer guys said that Hoglan was more natural on the kick drums. Songwise, mmm, maybe Slayer. SYL have had some bad stuff (self titled album) although Dev is known for working too hard and leaving it to the band to write songs, bipolar moments. I really like Alien, it was damn close to City regarding quality. Slayer have also made some great albums, RIB, SOH etc.I tried not to be biast, feel free to say what you think. (but dont have a fit, yes Im a minority)[/quote']When you put it like that Hawg, I think SYL do look better "on paper". However, I prefer Slayer purely on who I'd rather listen to. Although I have a complex relationship with Slayer, I can never decide if they are total brilliance or total shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 When you put it like that Hawg' date=' I think SYL do look better "on paper". However, I prefer Slayer purely on who I'd rather listen to. Although I have a complex relationship with Slayer, I can never decide if they are total brilliance or total shite.[/quote']Depends which album you're listening to of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Both are boring' date=' generic metal for the Sunny Delight generation. Listen to Rupture instead.[/quote']Slayer were probably the reason all those shit bands you listen to started playing their racket in the first place. And SYL - whether you love or hate them - are anything but boring and generic.And if other people actually DID listen to Rupture then YOU probably wouldn't. If more than 3 people cared about them, they'd obviously be a corporate-dick-sucking-emo-band-for-the-wet-knicker-brigade, regardless of their musical output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmygoodein Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 SYL for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Slayer were probably the reason all those shit bands you listen to started playing their racket in the first place. And SYL - whether you love or hate them - are anything but boring and generic.And if other people actually DID listen to Rupture then YOU probably wouldn't. If more than 3 people cared about them' date=' they'd obviously be a corporate-dick-sucking-emo-band-for-the-wet-knicker-brigade, regardless of their musical output.[/quote']This is his funniest post yet, and that's saying something. Not a clue.Dink, I'd usually say that when I want your opinion I'll ask for it. However, I will never ask for your opinion as you have no fucking idea what you're on about, which is standard practice for you. Over-using the word "probably" says it all, really. Stick to your metalcore-lite. And surely you should be too busy with your going-places band than having a pop (no pun intended) at me on the internet. Run along now, you're gonna be a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I love a can of worms.Looks like you've got one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 http://www.evengreener.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=114It even comes with a bedding block and instructions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Curious Hog, apart from SYL and DTB - who would you say were your favourite bands just now? Make me a top 5 excluding those 2... See if you can get my top 5 aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Excluding SYL and DTB..ok.1) Ocean Machine by Devin Townsend2) Terria by Devin Townsend3) Infinity by DEVIN toWNSEND4) Devlab 5) Im kidding...Serious..After SYL and the DTB..1) Ulver2) Type O Negative3) Pantera4) Metallica5) Megadeth+Tom Waits are even stevensHonoury mentions to Frantic Bleep, Dimmu Borgir, Annihilator, Helloween, Corrupted, Fear Factory, Enya and Philip Glass.Your top 51) Slayer2) Metallica3) Cannibal Corpse4) Decapitated5) Pantera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 don't forget Anastacia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 don't forget AnastaciaNah, the only song I like by her is "Sick and Tired" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Oooh good effort - nearly right for mine!MetallicaSlayerCannibal CorpsePanteraFear Factory/SYL (can't choose)Decapitated are awesome too though!I've still never heard Ulver so I'll need to look into them!Annihilator are ace too!"Hi Dave!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nah' date=' the only song I like by her is "Sick and Tired"[/quote']good track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dont think you will like Ulver James, its dark, electronic, avant garde, metal, jazz, ambient music. The singer is my #2 after Dev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_matter Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 the only real metal bands that i would say has taken my fancy lately is sleep terror. Brilliant band! check them out hog and james, i reckon use would like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonesaw Bazz Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Slayer for me. SYL are aright like but not bothered with them since City. But i have to agree about "Cult" though i had to shake my head when i heard the "religion is shit, religion is pish, religion is gay.... religion is wank, religion is poop i wish it'd go away!!" That horse died a long time ago Mr King. Stop fucking flogging it!!!! What happened to the OTHER topics in Slayer's lyrical bag? Surely they haven't ran out of Serial Killers and various Historical Tyrants?New topic: why does Kerry King's lyrics have to rhyme? (i'm assuming he did Cult though - but it tends to be the case).Oh, could Jake & Dan please just FUCK and get it over with!!! I'm sick of all this online foreplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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