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I've never wanted to "be" anything in terms of career. Work is a necessary evil' date=' nobody "wants" to do it. I'm 30 and still can't think of a job I actively want to do, I'd happily retire tomorrow with a clear conscience. We're work-obsessed nowadays. You're ill? Pop a Beechams, get on with it, don't take the day off, keep going at all costs. Fuck that! Still, I'm lucky enough to be doing something I'm damn good at, and which is relatively rewarding and pro-society.[/quote']

Sometimes...just sometimes, you nail it. I was always more ashamed of my peers who took Business Management, and went to see the careers guidance wifie, and had adulthood all mapped out, than those who persisited with petty acts of rebellion. If you know what you want to be by the time you're 23, then you've grown up too fast

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Sometimes...just sometimes' date=' you nail it. I was always more ashamed of my peers who took Business Management, and went to see the careers guidance wifie, and had adulthood all mapped out, than those who persisited with petty acts of rebellion. If you know what you want to be by the time you're 23, then you've grown up too fast[/quote']

Well said.

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Yeah' date=' I was just double checking Aberdeen didnt as the location was down as Aberdeen and my gf wants to do a further degree in archaeology and is moving to Aberdeen in May and it would have meant she didnt have to do Distance Learning.

Cheers

Stuart[/quote']

*Hog takes his porno wah-wah pedal out and plays 70's songs*

In all seriousness, that is very cool Stu, she is a nice lass, well done man.

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I disagree entirely' date=' most people are finishing degrees at that age... surely they should have some idea what they want to do?

Also, I'm 20... Didn't do a degree (obv) and I'd like to think I've taken my first step on the career ladder, I work full-time and at the moment I work away on projects, would this be classed at growing up too fast? I am only curious to your opinion... I support myself entirely so imho I thought it best to try and get on the career ladder as fast as I could and hopefully get en route to doing things like getting a car and perhaps a mortage.[/quote']

You're the same age as me and most of my friends, and if any of them were even considering things such as getting a car and a mortgage, then they wouldn't be my friends any more. It's nothing personal, but I find that kind of career-orientated, long-term, bourgeois thinking to be repugant, especially in a young (and supposedly counter-culture?) person.

It's a fair point that most people are finishing degrees at that age, but unless they've taken a vocational course which will see them progress immediately from uni to workplace, then there's no reason why they should have an idea of what they want to do. The best argument for a university education is that it delays what Jake calls the necessary evil of work, but it should also enhance your ability to appreciate the world around you

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I put down 'neurosurgeon' for my careers meeting and got a mock interview at the hospital. I was too scared to go, so didn't. I was trying to have a laugh.

I wanted to be a dentist for quite a bit but that soon changed to haven't got a clue. Over the past few years I've given teaching some thought but I'd like to get uni out of the way, save up some cash, go travel for a while then decide.

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You're the same age as me and most of my friends' date=' and if any of them were even considering things such as getting a car and a mortgage, then they wouldn't be my friends any more. It's nothing personal, but I find that kind of career-orientated, long-term, bourgeois thinking to be repugant, especially in a young (and supposedly counter-culture?) person.

It's a fair point that most people are finishing degrees at that age, but unless they've taken a vocational course which will see them progress immediately from uni to workplace, then there's no reason why they should have an idea of what they want to do. The best argument for a university education is that it delays what Jake calls the necessary evil of work, but it should also enhance your ability to appreciate the world around you[/quote']

hahahahahahahaha, you drive a car - how repugnant. hahahahahahahahahahaha

stop living in mickey mouse land. A mortgage just means you are supporting yourself and not paying anyone else's mortgage. School is for dreaming uni is for living and work is for buying stuff to help you live better. You need money to experience different things.

Most people go to university to help them get a better idea of subject s they are interested in with a view to working in that field eventually.

Why do you do wht you do?...

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You're the same age as me and most of my friends' date=' and if any of them were even considering things such as getting a car and a mortgage, then they wouldn't be my friends any more. It's nothing personal, but I find that kind of career-orientated, long-term, bourgeois thinking to be repugant, especially in a young (and supposedly counter-culture?) person.

It's a fair point that most people are finishing degrees at that age, but unless they've taken a vocational course which will see them progress immediately from uni to workplace, then there's no reason why they should have an idea of what they want to do. The best argument for a university education is that it delays what Jake calls the necessary evil of work, but it should also enhance your ability to appreciate the world around you[/quote']

You do realise you speak the biggest pile of toss don't you?

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You're the same age as me and most of my friends' date=' and if any of them were even considering things such as getting a car and a mortgage, then they wouldn't be my friends any more. It's nothing personal, but I find that kind of career-orientated, long-term, bourgeois thinking to be repugant, especially in a young (and supposedly counter-culture?) person.

It's a fair point that most people are finishing degrees at that age, but unless they've taken a vocational course which will see them progress immediately from uni to workplace, then there's no reason why they should have an idea of what they want to do. The best argument for a university education is that it delays what Jake calls the necessary evil of work, but it should also enhance your ability to appreciate the world around you[/quote']

Very little people our age know what they want to do (career wise) with the degrees they're studying it seems. Good on anyone young that does know what they want to do though.

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You're the same age as me and most of my friends' date=' and if any of them were even considering things such as getting a car and a mortgage, then they wouldn't be my friends any more. It's nothing personal, but I find that kind of career-orientated, long-term, bourgeois thinking to be repugant, especially in a young (and supposedly counter-culture?) person.

It's a fair point that most people are finishing degrees at that age, but unless they've taken a vocational course which will see them progress immediately from uni to workplace, then there's no reason why they should have an idea of what they want to do. The best argument for a university education is that it delays what Jake calls the necessary evil of work, but it should also enhance your ability to appreciate the world around you[/quote']

You're bang on on this one. I have a mortgage, purely because it's a damn site cheaper than renting a place. I have a fair-sized one-bedroom flat for under 200 a month. Like yourself, I find it mildly unsettling when someone relatively young can only think about how much money and consumer goods they can accumulate. "Be content with what you have" is the mantra I live by.

As for university, right again. I did a degree out of interest in the subject (sociology) and also to keep people off my back, sick fed up of hearing "But what do you want to DO?" all the time. And, of course, it meant not working full-time.

Before I went to university, which involved clawing my way up through college courses, I had a "wasted" year of temporary jobs and signing on, which taught me a hell of a lot more than I'd have known if I'd gone straight to higher education from school.

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I think its sad that people can be doing a course at university and have no idea what they want to do afterwards. Do they just sit with the UCAS codes in front of them and pick a random one? In my opinion, there is no point in going to uni unless:

1) You have a rough plan of what you want to do in life and you are not just going to uni for the sake of it.

2) You want to learn.

3) You are prepared to make sacrifices so that you can study.

In this country, an awful lot of people get herded off to uni, into a course that they are not necessarily enthusiastic about nor know the slightest thing about before they go. There is also an awful assumption that a degree is a golden ticket into the professional world, whatever the degree happens to be in, and once they posses this golden ticket they can immediatly get a job.

Schools need to stop pushing kids into going to university, when its really not going to do them any good at the end of the day. Some people are suited to further education, some people are not, but students need to be self-motivated for learning, not so they can get a big pay cheque in 10 years' time.

Personally I prefer the French model. None of this pfaffing around with UCAS, selling yourself to universities, trying to fit a particular mould. Everyone who meets the grades gets offered a first-year entry, and then the exams at the end of first-year detirmines who will carry on. Those who are motivated study and pass. Those who are not, drop out. I'm fed up with British universities and their awful selection process and degrees which, at the end of the day, will just make me an 'average' candidate for a job I want to do; so I've decided to study in Paris, where I will get no financial help (compared to top-rate bursaries if I studied in Scotland), but its academically the better option.

I admire anyone who is motivated and works hard, whether they are at university or have taken the first step on the career ladder at 17/18. Do what you want to do and what's right for you; but don't just go to uni as a way of 'buying time', good things don't come to those who sit around and wait for them...

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Once upon a time, I was very serious about being a pilot but my eyesight isn't the best so that went out the window.

I went to uni for the same reason that most people do ... cause I was expected to and so that I could leave home and get wasted every night ... not always a good idea to continue it on into and all the way through final year however but hey I enjoyed it. I did the subject I did (Mechanical Engineering with Aeronautics) out of interest in the subject (planes) but I didn't really do any work (see bit about getting wasted).

Uni is good for what you experience. I took up drums at uni and as it happens, that's what I decided to do with my life so I guess I did get something out of it in the end. Getting a job after it was a nightmare though simply because everyone goes to uni and when you come out with a 3rd, you're not particularily sought after. Didn't really know what I wanted to do either which didn't help but I got something in the end (degree related amazingly) which pays the bills and will let me expand my drum kit as far as I can reach :D

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Like yourself' date=' I find it mildly unsettling when someone relatively young can only think about how much money and consumer goods they can accumulate. "Be content with what you have" is the mantra I live by.

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i find socialism mildly unsettling, but different strokes for different folks, eh?

i've had a mortgage since i was 20. because before that, when i rented a place, i felt like i might as well have been burning money. i got a mortgage that young because it made financial sense, and because i saw the market getting ridiculous and knew i wanted to get in there while i still could. i was right, and i got lucky with the place i have now. as a result, when i move to paris next year i'll have a steady monthly income from renting the place out. i see no harm in having ambition and drive at an early age, as long as you're content.

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