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Although Aberdeen have seen band like Oasis and Babyshambles pass through here, we never seem to pull the same spectrum of acts that places like Glasgow or Manchester do, granted they are bigger citys but we have the crowds and we have the venue's..

The A.E.C.C is one of the biggest wastes of money i can think of, how often does that venue get used??? You wouldn't see the likes of The Barrowlands, S.E.C.C or Carling Academy sitting unused for more than 2 weeks at the most??

Recent tours like Richard Ashcroft, Chemical Brothers, The Strokes etc could you ever imagine any half decent bands playing up here.. Fair enough we get one or two but thats it..

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Well Morrissey is playing so the rumours go. I heard AC/DC are playing too. Besides, its not just used as a music venue.

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Recent tours like Richard Ashcroft' date=' Chemical Brothers, The Strokes etc could you ever imagine any half decent bands playing up here.. Fair enough we get one or two but thats it..[/quote']

dah greet min

plenty of great bands play up here

does a band need to be NME/Q/MTV status for you to go and see them??

didnt think so

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The AECC gets used all the time, it's just rarely used as a gig venue. Corporate hospitality events and exhibitions are more cost effective and more acceptable to the local community.

I think you overestimate the level of interest Aberdonians would have in the acts you mentioned. Maybe, on a good night, the Strokes would sell out the AECC, but only with a couple of decent support acts. And if these bands started to come here on a regular basis, the attraction would quickly fade as people came to realise that the AECC is (a) a crap venue and (b) usually full of idiots.

We get lots of good up and coming acts in Aberdeen, and it's always more fun to catch them playing out of their skins in a smaller venue than watch some bored superstar churn out the hits in an aircraft hangar anyway.

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You post a comment and you dont have get some fannied replies...

Who mentioned anything about the NME/Q/MTV???? "StuartMaxWell"???? Just because i dint mention every little band or next big super group to play the tunnels or Kef doesnt mean i dont know about music.. cock

I was just stressing the point that we dont get enough big name acts, Richard Ashcroft ect were just examples..

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You post a comment and you dont have get some fannied replies...

Who mentioned anything about the NME/Q/MTV???? "StuartMaxWell"???? Just because i dint mention every little band or next big super group to play the tunnels or Kef doesnt mean i dont know about music.. cock

Rowan, keep it civil please.

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You post a comment and you dont have get some fannied replies...

Who mentioned anything about the NME/Q/MTV???? "StuartMaxWell"???? Just because i dint mention every little band or next big super group to play the tunnels or Kef doesnt mean i dont know about music.. cock

Although a tad harsh...i do like this reply.

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I have been to a few corporate events in there - they do a good lunch, Yum :popcorn:

If you think about it, there are more people in the central belt, so if a band books a gig in Edinburgh or Glasgow, they are bound to sell more tickets. Trying to find a few thousand folk who are interested in the same band when there are only a few hundred thousand people is way tougher. Plus what Dave said!

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Although Aberdeen have seen band like Oasis and Babyshambles pass through here' date=' we never seem to pull the same spectrum of acts that places like Glasgow or Manchester do, granted they are bigger citys but we have the crowds and we have the venue's..[/quote']

Do we really have the crowds? We have no music culture to speak of here, there's no journalists/music executives here to play to, it's just not worth it. Moshulu/The Lemon Tree do/did a fine job in pulling bands up here to play exclusive Scottish dates, but to expect more is unrealistic.

As for having the venues : we have two 300 capacity venues, one 250-ish venue, one 550 venue, one 650 venue, one 1500 venue and one 7500 venue. Not really that much, especially given the high costs of even renting the Music Hall.

The A.E.C.C is one of the biggest wastes of money i can think of, how often does that venue get used??? You wouldn't see the likes of The Barrowlands, S.E.C.C or Carling Academy sitting unused for more than 2 weeks at the most??

It's been said before, I'll say it again - the AECC's main function isn't to cater to big name bands. They make an absolute killing from catering to the corporate world - live music just isn't really on the radar as far as it goes. It's also not that big a venue - 7500/8000 at a push? It's also percieved to be out of the way, and if a gig is likely to need to draw from all over Scotland to sell out the SECC, then it doesn't have a chance in being put on at the AECC.

Imagine you're running the AECC, and you have a choice of putting on a gig at a risk, or putting on some safe corporate thing...you're going to put on the safe corporate thing, because satisfied corporate customers will tell other corporate customers and so the money keeps rolling in. The same just doesn't apply with gigs - and it's not as if the AECC has the SECC's capability of hosting several things at once (even more so once the Arena gets built).

Recent tours like Richard Ashcroft, Chemical Brothers, The Strokes etc could you ever imagine any half decent bands playing up here.. Fair enough we get one or two but thats it..

We get more than our fair share of bands - but you have to remeber that there might not be the market for effectively 20,000 people to see the same band over two nights in Scotland. Aberdeen's catchment area isn't that high due to crappy public transport/etc - so it would be a lot harder to sell 7500 tickets in the AECC than to sell 10500 tickets in the SECC.

As for why they don't come up here? It's not rocket science, there obviously just isn't the demand/availability for these bands to do gigs. I'm sure if Aberdeen was a sure fire bet, DF Concerts/etc would be putting on heaps of stuff, but obviously it's viewed by them as not having *that* much potential. There's also commercial factors to consider.

In my opinion, Aberdeen already punches well above its height when it comes to bands, and we should be thankful for what we've got.

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Im not disputing the fact that we do get some very good bands up to aberdeen, but when we are presented with the opportunity we take full advantage.

For example when Oasis played Aberdeen (exclusive scottish date) it instantly sold out, granted it is Oasis but if some gigs were distributed more then we would have the opportunitys.

When Franz Ferdinad played, granted they had a sterling support but even with additional scottish dates the gig was a sell out, James Blunt etc I cant remember a gig at the A.E.C.C in recent times that hasn't ether sold our or came close...

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I have been to a few corporate events in there - they do a good lunch' date=' Yum :popcorn:

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Don't let Maxi hear you say that, he's their chef

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Im not disputing the fact that we do get some very good bands up to aberdeen' date=' but when we are presented with the opportunity we take full advantage.

For example when Oasis played Aberdeen (exclusive scottish date) it instantly sold out, granted it is Oasis but if some gigs were distributed more then we would have the opportunitys.

When Franz Ferdinad played, granted they had a sterling support but even with additional scottish dates the gig was a sell out, James Blunt etc I cant remember a gig at the A.E.C.C in recent times that hasn't ether sold our or came close...[/quote']

That is some poor examples though as these are band's that have had a few no1s and sold millions of albums in Britain.

If (say for example) The Strokes were to play here they wouldn't attract as much and would be hard to sell out.

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That is some poor examples though as these are band's that have had a few no1s and sold millions of albums in Britain.

If (say for example) The Strokes were to play here they wouldn't attract as much and would be hard to sell out.

I'd go and see the Strokes. Though I of course only represent one person and not the 3000 or so it would take to fill the AECC.

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Im not disputing the fact that we do get some very good bands up to aberdeen' date=' but when we are presented with the opportunity we take full advantage.

For example when Oasis played Aberdeen (exclusive scottish date) it instantly sold out, granted it is Oasis but if some gigs were distributed more then we would have the opportunitys.[/quote']

Thing is, one gig that sells 10,000 in the SECC at (say) 25 a pop is going to be more profitable than two gigs that sell 6000 each in Aberdeen and Glasgow - the band will be expecting two nights pay, yet you've only sold 2000 more tickets. It makes waaaay more sense (except in guaranteed sell outs) to only run the SECC in such a situation. It might not be great, but there's no way the AECC is going to outbid the SECC for gigs,

When Franz Ferdinad played, granted they had a sterling support but even with additional scottish dates the gig was a sell out, James Blunt etc I cant remember a gig at the A.E.C.C in recent times that hasn't ether sold our or came close...

Thing is, all these bands are/were huge that you're mentioning and are riding the crest of a wave. Franz could do it because everyone's heard of them, same with James Blunt, same with Oasis - but has everyone heard of The Strokes?

One thing to consider : Even a band the size of the Manics around the EMG/TIMT era didn't do Aberdeen and Glasgow - so doesn't that explain how tough it must be to actually sell two nights up here?

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Im not disputing the fact that we do get some very good bands up to aberdeen' date=' but when we are presented with the opportunity we take full advantage.

For example when Oasis played Aberdeen (exclusive scottish date) it instantly sold out, granted it is Oasis but if some gigs were distributed more then we would have the opportunitys.

When Franz Ferdinad played, granted they had a sterling support but even with additional scottish dates the gig was a sell out, James Blunt etc I cant remember a gig at the A.E.C.C in recent times that hasn't ether sold our or came close...[/quote']

I bet you Ian Brown doesn't sell out.

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There are different parts to the A.E.C.C, venue hall's or what ever you'd call them

(well there were before it was refurbished, used to have exams there is some massive hall)

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You post a comment and you dont have get some fannied replies...

Who mentioned anything about the NME/Q/MTV???? "StuartMaxWell"???? Just because i dint mention every little band or next big super group to play the tunnels or Kef doesnt mean i dont know about music.. cock

I was just stressing the point that we dont get enough big name acts' date=' Richard Ashcroft ect were just examples..[/quote']

if you read what i said again, you would have noticed that i was giving you the benefit of the doubt

go fuck yourself

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You dont think the Strokes would sell out Aberdeen?

Doubt it, they haven't had a hit song in a while and don't have any hype surrounding them.

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AECC is 8' date='000 isnt it ?[/quote']

Is it really that much? Actually I haven't been to a gig there since Bob Dylan back in 2002, so I don't know how much it's changed since then.

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Doubt it' date=' they haven't had a hit song in a while and don't have any hype surrounding them.[/quote']

They have a song out just now that's on radio 1 about every 20 minutes.

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