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Definitive band of the 00's?


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Inspired by Mr Boo's best decade question, this struck me.

Every decade's had it's definitive artists, Elvis, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Bowie, The Sex Pistols, Guns and Roses, Nirvana. No doubt these could be disputed for weeks on here, but I'm just churning up general examples.

Anyhoo, the question is...we're now 6 years into the decade of the 00's and I'm curious who people think will be seen as the definitive bands of this decade when we look back on it in 20 years or so? I hope it's not Coldplay.

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Inspired by Mr Boo's best decade question' date=' this struck me.

Every decade's had it's definitive artists, Elvis, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Bowie, The Sex Pistols, Guns and Roses, Nirvana. No doubt these could be disputed for weeks on here, but I'm just churning up general examples.

Anyhoo, the question is...we're now 6 years into the decade of the 00's and I'm curious who people think will be seen as the definitive bands of this decade when we look back on it in 20 years or so? I hope it's not Coldplay.[/quote']

That's a tough one...

Clearly its completely subjective - and what really defines "definitive"?

Artists can make a difference for a number of reasons, take the 60's for example...

Song Structure - Beatles, Beach Boys, CSNY, Byrds

Stagecraft & Attitude- Stones, The Who

Musicianship - Hendrix, Cream

Commercialism - Beatles, Stones

Image - Beatles, Stones The Who

Progressiveness - Beatles, The Who, Stones

There are many more bands and categories than the above for the 60's alone.

I honestly believe you'd be hard pushed to find any band since the 60's that have brought anything truly new (musically) to the table. Maybe 80's/90's Electronica, but you could apply the above categories to any decade and see what comes out.

I was (sadly) born in the 60's and my musical "development" really began in the late 70's/early 80's (a vaccuum of creativity if ever there was one), so my heart doesn't really lie with the 60's, but I that decade has more indelible, "definitive" images of any other8)

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Something that ive been wondering as well. I think the scene was set for it to become The Libertines, but a dull second album and drugs mucked that one up. The NME are trying to hype up Artic Monkeys as that, but their album really isnt anything special, and are just a Northern version of the Libertines (who arent decade defining at all either).Not one of the "big names" have produced that classic album that you need. there has been plenty of top singles though.

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mmh, i think the music after the millennium has dried up a little. but probably Coldplay because of their "political impact" they've made (but honestly, parachutes was a real killer, unlike the follow ups).

or maybe the strokes for partly reviving the garage thing.

but to be honest, i haven't heard anything genre defining yet, which is what makes out most of what we classify as definitive.

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but to be honest' date=' i haven't heard anything genre defining yet, which is what makes out most of what we classify as definitive.[/quote']

i have to agree with that. I had to think about this for five minutes without coming to any conclusion. Surelly if there was a defining band i would have thought it straight away.

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i have to agree with that. I had to think about this for five minutes without coming to any conclusion. Surelly if there was a defining band i would have thought it straight away.

well maybe there is a genre-defining band, but we don't realise it yet because we don't know what the genre is...;)

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Still 4 years to go but I think so far the biggest defining feature of this decade in terms of pop music is basically the ascendancy of the bland, the insipid, and the uninspired. James Blunt is a prime example of the type of drivel I think the "noughties" will be remembered for. The backward looking recycle-fest that is going on at the moment where appropriation of the authentic cultural outout of the last 30/40 years and consequent repackaging into a massive falsehood which is marketed to kids who don't know any better is also something that will no doubt be seen as having been a significant part of the pop landscape in the latter half of the decade.

I agree totally with Patrick Boo that this decade still hasn't found a real identity and I'm equally hopeful that something will to happen to shatter all the bullshit and put music back in the hands of real people rather than the control of business execs and marketing teams. The internet and proliferation of high quality home production software and affordable hardware is going to play a big part in that without a doubt.

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The thing about the music scene as it stands now, compared to the 60's and 70's, is that there are litterally thousands and thousands of bands out there trying to make a name for themselves. This means its incredibly hard for one or two acts to stand out against the rest. The era of stadium rock is gone and has been replaced by what i'd call 'bedroom music'. John Peel was one of the main instigators to this change. Showing, through his radio show, that theres more to music than the five or so main bands that were being played non-stop on daytime radio.

Personally i feel that rock as a popular artform, i.e bands getting into the charts, is dead. The bands that do, or the so called 'singer-songwriters' (OMG they play and write their own songs..shock!) are weak and do not reflect the rock industry as a whole. I think that right now i'm glad to be right in the midst of this, just because i'm spoilt for choice. If you don't believe me just type in 'A' in myspace music, too many awsome bands too few opportunities to make it.

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Green Day will likely end up as a defining band of the 90s AND 00s - biggest band last year by quite a way' date=' and I suspect it'll continue....[/quote']

yes, but greenday have done nothing new.

though i've been thinking about it a little bit more, the most individual band i've heard in a while would actually have to be : ( (colon open bracket) well, at least they are doing their part for the "laptop-emo" thing.

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The thing is, the 'bedroom scene' that vide infra described is just the way things were in the 80s. I'd say it would be difficult to define the 80s in terms of an artist or a musical movement, because at the beginning of the decade there was the aftershock of punk which gave us new wave, but the main part of the eighties that I remember was dominated by hideous stadium rock aor/mor bilge and plastic SAW pop. Mainstream culture was very very depressing and counterculture didn't really shake things up until the decade was coming to an end. Obviously the bands people have pinpointed as being the defining ones of that era were great (The Smiths really were everything in the world to the fourteen year old Patrick Boo) but they didn't define the era at all, they shone in spite of the culture around them. Perhaps we'll look back at this decade in the same way...

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It has to be the libertines, defining bands are the ones who inspire the type of genre for the next few years and if you look at the hype just now, its focussed alot on indie music. Alot of bands would not be getting the attention (even if its not deserved) that they are now if it wasnt from the scene that the libertines (and the strokes) have created. I believe the '00's will be remembered for its indie music.

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the darkness' date=' have had arguably the biggest hype of the 21st century. but they've already started to crumble.[/quote']

Where does this shit come from? A critically acclaimed second album and a pending arena tour is hardly "crumbling". I can see why a lot of folk wouldn't like the Darkness, but to say they're over is just bullshit; it's only the surrounding hype machine that's over.

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