framheim Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I'm not a rampant nationalist or anything but i think scotland has a cultural history to be proud of yet i'm not overly familiar with too much of it. it's time to remedy this. i want only serious replys to this thread please. i'm interested in bothy ballads and scottish folk songs in general. not just individual songs though but performers i might like. anything downloadable or obtainable on cd is preferred.if it's any indication of what i might like i'm really into alt-country stuff like songs:ohia, bonnie prince billy and the like as well as people like alisdair roberts.i eagarly await your recommendations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kernel Loaf Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 http://www.myspace.com/holyfolks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Slightly digressing. There is not dark evil Scottish folk music. Its all too upbeat (apart from the Holy Folks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Borlax Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 are you only looking for like old drunks/scottish folk?cause id reccomend....joanna newsom, patrick wolf and jose gonzalez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Maverik Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Paul Mounsey* , Peatbog Faeries, Wolfstone Andy*make this one priority, but do give the others a spin as well, as they rock also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallan Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 try us at www.welfaremothers.blogspot.comwe're certainly not overly upbeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nataliecnd Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 do you mean folk music as in Scottish folk music? Would Bright Eyes be classed as folk? or is that a stupid question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-matthEw- Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 worth checking out people like Jimmy Shand. for modern stuff, Dougie McLean might be able to offer what your after (its not all as cheesy Scots as Caledonia). There is also a very rich backlog of traditional songs that ive just discovered by listening to drunk guys in pubs - probably the best way to experience folk songs.the holy folks however are better than anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offramp Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'd recommend some Fence Collective stuff. Start with King Creosote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 the only folk band worth listening to is the Holy Folks.Listen to them and all your lifes problems will be solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-matthEw- Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 http://www.soundclick.com/holyfolks for MORE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael MacLennan Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 It's not quite in the category you're interested in, but check out the sadly departed Martyn Bennett for someone who combined modern music with traditional Scottish tunes, amazing musician. Now that you mention it, Celtic Connections is on in Glasgow later this month, sure if you do some research on the bands playing there you'll find something groovy. That's certainly my plan before I head back down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm not a rampant nationalist or anything but i think scotland has a cultural history to be proud of yet i'm not overly familiar with too much of it. it's time to remedy this. i want only serious replys to this thread please. i'm interested in bothy ballads and scottish folk songs in general. not just individual songs though but performers i might like. anything downloadable or obtainable on cd is preferred.if it's any indication of what i might like i'm really into alt-country stuff like songs:ohia' date=' bonnie prince billy and the like as well as people like alisdair roberts.i eagarly await your recommendations [/quote']You should check out the Ian Campbell folk group, Ian was born in Aberdeen and is the father of two members of ub40, he did about a dozen albums in the 60's on Decca and Transatlantic and had Dave Swarbrick on fiddle...!!G... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-matthEw- Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 People like Bert Jansch, also maybe the Old Blind Dogs and Ian Benzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Kitchen Cynics aye?Alan's a modest moose but recommended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dick Gaughan, Michael Marra, Karine Polwart for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 If it's the real local trad stuff, then it has to be Jeannie Robertson, or her daughter Lizzie Higgins....their stuff came out on Topic. It MIGHT be in the library, but one which definitely IS, and is excellent is a CD of 1950s recordings by John Strachan, called, I think, 'Songs of Aberdeenshire'.The earlier mention of the Ian Campbell group was good...their album 'The Singing Campbells: Traditions of an Aberdeen Family' is also in the library. Not from Aberdeen, but well worth hearing would be the recordings of the Stewart family of Blairgowrie. Some of the Folk revivalists of the early 60s did great versions of scottish songs, despite being non-Scots. I particularly like Shirley Collins, Anne Briggs, Sweeney's Men and the Young Tradition.The new Kitchen Cynics one has one trad ballad (Bonny Betsy) with my own music. I got the words from the Greig/Duncan Folk Song collection...there are 6 volumes of this in the library, too, if you're interested in the words as much as the music. I've also written my own ballads about John Gordon (beheaded in the Castlegate with Mary Queen of Scots watching), and a nameless prostitute in 40s Aberdeen...the usual cheerful stuff!You might quite like Jim Reid, who is Angus-based, but is playing Aberdeen Folk Club soon.For local humourous songs I'd suggest Harry Gordon (the Laird o' Inversnecky). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 thanks for the tips guys, keep em coming!to help you guys help me, bright eyes wasn't really what i'm looking for but i'm already a fan. and i'm not really looking for things like wolfstone who are more of a celtic rock band, though again nothing wrong with em.gonna take a trip to the library today i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Have a look here www.footstompin.com and check the Forum, it can get pretty nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluesxman Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I have a couple of 2 on 1 CD's by the aforementioned Bert Jansch, found them quite enjoyable, especially Jack Orion. FOPP had them at a fiver a while back. Kitchen Cynics stuff is good, I've gathered a few CD's now, i'm sure Alan will help out if you get in touch, very reasonably priced and nicely packaged with nice little explanations of what the song inspirations were.If you want to go further afield there's a 6 CD set called 'The Anthology Of American Folk Music' which has bags of weird old American folk music on it, it's great! Expensive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 That anthology (the Harry Smith one?) is superb. There was another volume issued a couple of years back....a comp. he'd prepared for release, but which was never issued at the time.For dark, strange trad, I'd also recommend Frankie Armstrong, or early June Tabor. There are great themed comp.s on Topic...the one on 'amorous encounters' called "Who's that at my bed window?" is well worth getting, especially as it includes Jeannie Robertson, Lizzie Higgins, Walter Pardon, Belle Stewart etc etc (including Paddy Tunney, who is one of Alasdair Roberts' heroes).If you'd like to hear some of these, send me a PM, Dave.Nearly forgot...the Watersons!! Martin Carthy!! Sam Larner!! The Copper Family!! (English, all) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Kitchen Cynics aye?Alan's a modest moose but recommended Most certainly:up: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-matthEw- Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 If it's the real local trad stuff' date=' then it has to be Jeannie Robertson, or her daughter Lizzie Higgins....their stuff came out on Topic. It MIGHT be in the library, but one which definitely IS, and is excellent is a CD of 1950s recordings by John Strachan, called, I think, 'Songs of Aberdeenshire'.The earlier mention of the Ian Campbell group was good...their album 'The Singing Campbells: Traditions of an Aberdeen Family' is also in the library. Not from Aberdeen, but well worth hearing would be the recordings of the Stewart family of Blairgowrie. Some of the Folk revivalists of the early 60s did great versions of scottish songs, despite being non-Scots. I particularly like Shirley Collins, Anne Briggs, Sweeney's Men and the Young Tradition.The new Kitchen Cynics one has one trad ballad (Bonny Betsy) with my own music. I got the words from the Greig/Duncan Folk Song collection...there are 6 volumes of this in the library, too, if you're interested in the words as much as the music. I've also written my own ballads about John Gordon (beheaded in the Castlegate with Mary Queen of Scots watching), and a nameless prostitute in 40s Aberdeen...the usual cheerful stuff!You might quite like Jim Reid, who is Angus-based, but is playing Aberdeen Folk Club soon.For local humourous songs I'd suggest Harry Gordon (the Laird o' Inversnecky).[/quote']Alan, whats that song about the girl from Torry that died that you do? you played it at the hazlewood charity gig @ the tunnels. it was lovely :love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Alan' date=' whats that song about the girl from Torry that died that you do? you played it at the hazlewood charity gig @ the tunnels. it was lovely :love:[/quote']It's called 'The Torry Ferry'...it's on 'Hoodie Craw' (some copies at the Cavern just now).Dave.....Graeme mentioned Dick Gaughan, and I think you might like his albums, too....I know Alasdair is also a fan. He does brilliant versions of 'The snow it melts the soonest' and 'Now Westlin' Winds' (which I do a naff version of). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I think of all the suggestions made here, Dick Gaughan is the one to go for first. Try and get something with his version of Phil Ochs "When I'm Gone(?)" and see if it doesn't make you want to live life before it's too late!It should be every Scotsmans duty to see Dick Gaughan at least once in his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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