french_disko Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Quite disturbing, really - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/25/wnazi25.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/10/25/ixportal.htmlTwin pop stars with angelic looks are new face of racismBy Catherine Elsworth in Los Angeles(Filed: 25/10/2005)America's white supremacist movement has an angelic new face: twin teenage pop stars whose songs preach messages of racial hatred.Prussian Blue, a "white power" band now recording its second album, is described as a sinister version of the Olsen Twins, the squeaky clean child actresses of the 1990s. It is attracting more and more fans among young white nationalists.Lamb and Lynx Gaede, blonde, blue-eyed 13-year-olds from Bakersfield, California, have been entertaining all-white crowds with their music since the age of nine. Lamb plays the guitar and Lynx the violin.Their songs have titles such as Sacrifice, a tribute to Hitler's deputy, Rudolf Hess, that praises him as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up". Performing for such groups as the neo-Nazi National Alliance at Holocaust-denial events and festivals entitled Folk the System, the girls execute Sieg Heil salutes while belting out lyrics such as "Strike force! White survival. Strike force! Yeah.""We are proud of being white," Lynx told ABC News. "We want our people to stay whitewe don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race." The twins have such a high profile among white supremacists that David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan leader and presidential candidate, uses them to attract support.Critics have condemned the twins' message and say that they have been brainwashed by their mother."It breaks my heart to see those girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, the president of the National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People's Legal Defence Fund.The twins' act was recently withdrawn from the Kern County fair because of "security concerns". Their mother, April, 38, a former member of the National Alliance, told the Bakersfield Californian that her daughters were upset. They "simply want to perform their songs: songs about Vikings and German history", she said.Miss Gaede has brought her daughters up on racist beliefs using textbooks from the 1950s. She is separated from their father, who is said to have similar views and has a swastika on his belt buckle.Prussian Blue, under contract to the white supremacist label Resistance Records, is one of a number of extremist pop bands, such as Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans.The twins' first album featured songs called Road to Valhalla and Aryan Man, Awake. They depict a world "where freedom exists for only those with darker skin" and encourage the Aryan man to awake and "turn that fear to hate".The twins recently came under fire for stipulating that money they donated to the victims of Hurricane Katrina should go to whites only. In a recent interview with the magazine Viceland, they were asked what was the "most important social issue facing the white race right now". They replied: "Not having enough white babies born to replace ourselves and generally not having good quality white people being born."More here - http://www.viceland.com/issues/v11n10/htdocs/hello.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Page 99 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I actualy don't care if this is harsh.I hope they get die or contract some horrendous desiese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I actualy don't care if this is harsh.I hope they get die or contract some horrendous desiese.that's not harsh enough........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I have to have one of those Nazi Smiley T-shirts!Unfortunately, this bad press is going to help them sell their albums. I know I'm interested already. Zeig Heil ... goose-step.... achtung.... etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Savant Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 check the links on their homepage! Women for Aryan Unity?!www.prussianblue.neton the messageboard, one of the guidlines is "No attacks against other White nationalities." BLoody hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I realise it wasn't the intention, but isn't the link to these pages technically a link to offensive material? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I realise it wasn't the intention' date=' but isn't the link to these pages technically a link to offensive material?[/quote']Surely it's OK if used to inform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 that's a touch sweeping.So technically, if I posted an article about a child porn ring, it would be acceptable for me to link to kiddie porn sites which related to the article as the purpose was to 'inform'?I think it is better to err on the side of caution.As I said, I am not casting aspersions on anyone's intentions at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Borlax Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 songs about Vikings and German history", she said.hahaha, what are they some twat black metal act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I realise it wasn't the intention' date=' but isn't the link to these pages technically a link to offensive material?[/quote']The Daily Telegraph is certainly pretty offensive at times...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkt Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 That is really scary. I hope they get brutally raped and left to die. But by a white man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 that's a touch sweeping.So technically' date=' if I posted an article about a child porn ring, it would be acceptable for me to link to kiddie porn sites which related to the article as the purpose was to 'inform'?I think it is better to err on the side of caution.As I said, I am not casting aspersions on anyone's intentions at all.[/quote']I understand what you're saying but I think the context in which we are discussing the band justifies the links. Everyone seems pretty outraged by them, thankfully. The links are starting a discussion & no one is endorsing the band or their views so I personally think they're justified.the comparisson to child porn is slghtly off the mark - no one is posting links to visually offensive material here. The band, and there fans, views are abhorrent but there is nothing there that is blatantly illegal (although with the new Anti-terrorism laws, I could be wrong). Anyway, I think this is the wrong argument to be had - surely we should be discussing the bands views rather than if posting a link to it is, potentially, a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I find it difficult to discuss the band's views, clearly these are impressionable young women who have been brainwashed.Venting hatred toward them, and not those who brainwashed them with this filth, seems to me a waste of effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I find it difficult to discuss the band's views' date=' clearly these are impressionable young women who have been brainwashed.Venting hatred toward them, and not those who brainwashed them with this filth, seems to me a waste of effort.[/quote']well, surely that's worthy of discussion then? Who has made them to be like this? Parents? friends? school? incidently, they were featured in an episode of Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends so he obviosuly thought they were worm some discussion. ABC news as well - http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 "Prussian Blue, under contract to the white supremacist label Resistance Records"i have been aware of this "record company" for some time now, its fucking sickening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 hey, i ain't saying not to discuss 'em, nor am I suggesting that I don't want to discuss them.I just think that this is a more complex situation than it first appears, and wishing rape and death upon these two lassies seems to me to be a rather unfortunate response.I think that society in general across the Western world has an endemically racist streak.Look at the fact that we had Nazi sympathisers in government in Austria recently, Le Pen made the final presidential ballot in France, the BNP vote has rocketed in certain areas of England...There is a serious undercurrent of racism in our society which is fuelled by disgusting reporting of issues such as immigration and asylum, and a complete failure of politicians to deal with the issue, instead creating a negative image of immigrants, which just fuels racism yet further.I think this band are sick, pure and simple. But it is equally clear that nine year olds do not have a complex understanding of racism issues and therefore it is clear that they were spoon fed this disgusting propaganda.A clear case of a swift intervention by social services being needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve corps Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 i'll be logging back onto their site in 5 years time for the gallery.semi naked, jackbooted Falruza Balk in american history x fucking destroys all.wishing bad things on 13 year old girls is a bit daft, no? what if your own sister comes home and says "i hate the bloody darkies" or something simalar, may i come round and cave her head in with a hammer? big difference between ignorant teenagers and militant white supremacists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 A clear case of a swift intervention by social services being needed.Exactly - i find it disturbing that there's been no one stepping in & sorting their dysfunctionalty out. i find it sad really - they may have their views but I can't help those views have been shaped by others & they don't have a mind of their own. I also find the blue eyed, blonde haired image a bit disturbing - designed to appeal to home lovin' Nazi mothers & right wing paedophiles alike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 i've just spend the past half hour or so looking at their forum. its vilemost of them are yanks though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Swords Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 We have a similarly popular duo promoting racism and bigotry in Scotland - Rangers and Celtic. I fucking hate them.As was said, in Britain, parties like the BNP and UKIP are pulling in more votes than they used to, the Labour Party are putting Asylum Seekers in prison for simply being here, the London media struck out against Liam Fox when he was running for the Tory leadership because it could have created a situation where Brown, Fox and Kennedy (ie. three Scots) were leading the three big parties. And to think that the left thought Britain would learn to live in peace and harmony, regardless of colour or ethnicity, when they finally managed to rid TV of that bastion of white supremacy, Al Jolson.Generally, I think trying to convince people that racism is akin to scummery does more to polarise opinion than to solve the problem. Although I'm not excusing any racist (far from it), I think the left have caused a lot of the trouble through their constant self-righteous (puritanical is probably a better word) crusades against TV programmes, Enid Blyton books, household ornamnets, the English language etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxton's Superb Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 We have a similarly popular duo promoting racism and bigotry in Scotland - Rangers and Celtic. I fucking hate them.do they fuck PROMOTE it you fucking moron...they have a section of fans who sing vile songs, yes...but you saying the clubs promote it?? you are a fucking idiot. ill also bet youre pretty bigoted against Glaswegians...but thats OK i guess...tit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Savant Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I realise it wasn't the intention' date=' but isn't the link to these pages technically a link to offensive material?[/quote']Report the post if you're offended by the content of that site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Swords Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Leif, I was going to write..."That's right, I've never been to either ground, never heard Celtic fans singing about the IRA or Rangers fans singing "fuck Bobby Sands". Never seen Celtic scarves with "The Undefeated Army" written on them or Rangers scarves with "No Surrender 1690" on them. Never even seen a Tricolour or St Georges Cross. Bastard, must have mixed them up with Partick Thistle again.On the subject of Wegies, aside the fact I originally come from Glasgow, I don't really have any opinion on them one way or the other."Then I thought, with the amount of abuse you wrote in your post to me (ie I'll call you names because I don't have an argument), you do a good enough job of sounding like a moron without any help from me. There's not point in arguing with people like you, because you'll go on till you're blue (or green) in the face about something that's so obvious to everyone else that it would be funny if it wasn't so disgusting.I should add that I'm not going to get into a fight about this, because I don't want the thread hijacked with this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 This gets better... I found an responce basically implying that because I'm a naturally white' date=' blonde and blue eyed female that I'd make a shit wife.[i']Subject: Blonds Will Be A Thing of the PastDate: Jan 02 2005 12:36:41 AMAuthor: JaneKeep up the marvelous work, White guys. White men marry non-Whites at a rate 100 times higher than White Women. The White race will soon be an extinct species. It is currently an endangered species. Every time a White man produces offspring with his lovely mail order bride from some faraway continent, the offspring's no longer White. Every time the Asian or Latina wife bears children, they'll usually be born into this world with dark hair and eyes. The fabulous dominance of the non-White mother's genes will take over. All of the "White survivalists" should really attempt to reach out to the American White men who fall into the 18 to 55 age group. If you don't recruit more aggressively, your White brothers will continue to be lured by non-White beauties. MTV and the media has told the White youth that these women are gorgeous and will make good wives.Many multicultural White guys know that these women are pretty, industrious, witty, open-minded and splendid lovemakers. They'll do things that White women refuse to do.If any youthful White guy is reading this, always remember that bachelorhood is avoidable by "mixing it up" with a woman of color. You know wholeheartedly that biracial children are the cutest. You'll do the right thing. Racism always goes both ways. Reads more to me like white supremacist propoganda than anti-white racism. Calling the "white race" a "species" for example, always using a capitalised W on White and"All of the "White survivalists" should really attempt to reach out to the American White men who fall into the 18 to 55 age group. If you don't recruit more aggressively, your White brothers will continue to be lured by non-White beauties." seems to be the message they're trying to put across. Why would an anti-white racist suggest the answer? I'm only reading between the lines though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxton's Superb Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 by saying PROMOTE it, you are suggesting they actually have programmes or something, and i doubt you'll see an official vendor selling any of the scarfs you mentioned earlier..to say they promote bigotry is typically misguided of football fans outwith the Old Firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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