Stripey Posted June 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 I find it interesting that what started out as a simple statement questioning the merits of playing live against recording' date=' with no mention of genre, eventually came round to focus specifically on one style of music, namely "rock".[/quote'] Sadly inevitable on this site.I think that in the majority of styles of music' date=' be it classical, folk, country, jazz or rock, it's not the interaction with the crowd that is the most important, but the interaction with the other people with whom you are playing. Regardless of whether or not you have an audience, playing with other people is still playing live. An excellent example of this is the many folk sessions which occur in various pubs in Aberdeen (Globe, Prince of Wales, Blue Lamp) - all the people there are playing live. Some are beginners, some are extremely talented, some are inbetween and the majority have little or no interest in recording anything. They play live because they enjoy the whole experience of interacting and sharing with other musicians to create an end result.This isn't to say that the same interaction cannot be done in the studio, but a studio is a completely different environment - you normally have limited time (due to budgetary constraints) and you tend to have already a fixed idea about what has to be done.Playing live in front of an audience when your band is fully rehearsed, your songs are good and the crowd are really enjoying themselves is, in my opinion, the pinnacle of musical enjoyment - again because of the sharing element. Everyone in the venue is part of the experience. The crowd are excited, the band feed off this excitement, producing adrenalin, which fuels their own playing and creativitiy, which in turn restokes the crowd and so on. So I don't feel that playing live can ever be described as "selfish" - people may have put selfish reasons for wanting to do it, but it still boils down to a shared experience.Individual artists - be they singer/songwriters, solo instrumentalists or electronic/computer aided musicians do have the ultimate control over what they ultimately produce, and can spend vast amounts of time honing and polishing their finished work. Once complete, the work is truly theirs - no-one else has had any input and when it is released/played they can sit back and say "That's mine - no-one elses". A band of whatever genre who record something have to sit back and say "That's ours".....Which is more selfish?RegardsFlossie[/quote']Well, I was actually referring to ulterior motivations for performing when I said selfish...nonetheless you have made some interesting points. Calling solo artists selfish is a bit rich though, the innate desire of artists in any field to express themselves is a different type of egotism altogether, you wouldn't call beethoven or van gogh selfish for creating what they did, infact, in my opionion, solo and non-live artists have consistently produced more interesting, innovative, heartfelt and revealing works than any typical band of any genre. I would rather hear or see the individualistic output of a single person than the result of comprimise and concensus that is inevitable in a collaboration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 well' date=' lets face facts, 4 piece rock is dead, except to a few stragglers in rural communities like aberdeen and the dying throes of it in the pop charts.[/quote']If you didn't actually believe what you'd posted here it would be a brilliantly conceived slice of shit stirring genius. Instead, it's just a lot of bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted June 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 If you didn't actually believe what you'd posted here it would be a brilliantly conceived slice of shit stirring genius. Instead' date=' it's just a lot of bollocks.[/quote']nah it's not bollocks, it's very true, and I feel sorry for people like you with such emaciated taste in music and malnutritioned spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 nah it's not bollocks' date=' it's very true, and I feel sorry for people like you with such emaciated taste in music and malnutritioned spirit.[/quote']You're delusional. If you went to gigs, socialised and made friends perhaps you'd see the point in live music. I'd feel sorry for your lonely existance but my malnutritioned spirit can't summon the energy to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKMartin Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 "malnourished".sorryAKM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Sadly inevitable on this site.hmm, but i think it was you that brought the focus onto rock music in this thread by saying most people were just kids who had no creativity past the 20th century rock paradigm. it was going so well until you starting generalising everyone in aberdeen as a bunch of small minded rural kids. don't resort to those tactics when you've clearly got a good discussion going about live and recorded techniques and you were making some great points. as were other people. personally i think recordings can be set apart from the live experience and a bands live performance can sound completely different from a recorded experience. and there's nothing wrong with concentrating on recording and not playing live, it worked for the beatles rather well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 You're delusional. If you went to gigs' date=' [b']socialised and made friends perhaps you'd see the point in live music.So this is the point in live music in your eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 What is the point in performing music liveit's fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 So this is the point in live music in your eyes?No, the point in live music is to experience something in the here and now, to be affected by it, to live. To enjoy. Listening to live music is a shared, social experience. Sometimes the music has a profound affect on me, it can inspire me or send shivers down my spine... but other times I enjoy the people I meet at gigs much more than the music I hear at them. When are you next playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pop-notmyface Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 want a smack my friend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 . I can count on 1 hand the number of local artists who have great recordings and genuine creativity.The rest are just kids with no creative vision beyond the 20th century rock paradigm.but only in your opinion i bet a lot more people disagree with that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AmbientMood Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 the point in live music is to experience something in the here and now, to be affected by it, to live. Sometimes the music has a profound affect on me, it can inspire me or send shivers down my spine...A poor attempt to romanticise uninspired music. Is this how you think your fans see Stayover gigs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 A poor attempt to romanticise uninspired music. Is this how you think your fans see Stayover gigs?I'm not sure how they see them, all I know is that they're great. Oh, and there are lots of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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