Hi, We'll probably always be in the stage between starting out and being established!! We don't really do anything that differently and we do play the same kind of venues as bands like Flaming Kate, just that we would obviously be on a different bill. I think the youtube vids are very "pop" but our own stuff is really not as pop as that. We have a live setup of 2 vocals, guitar, bass, keys, kit - fairly standard, and we spend hours rehearsing, recording, etc in the same way. I'd imagine, as you say, that the majority of people who frequent this site would not like this Taio Cruz story and would probably see us as "shitpop", but I suppose that's the fun of music and another reason why it's important not to take anything too seriously!!