Yeah, they are not really PAF's but they are very close . Didn't mean to mislead of course. I just always thought these qualified a PAF's as well. Perhaps my asking price is a bit high, but I reckon it's worth it. Granted the neckcrack is a bit of a downer, but the PAT No. pickups are a real enhancement as far as I'm concerned, the P90 guitars I've had squealed all over the place. The guitar at Elderly can be in the UK for 2175 GBP including shipping and all the taxes. So I don't think I'm that far off. Here's a pic of the neckcrack by the way.