Fraz, what is point in ripping into folk you don't even know? You don't like the genre of music they play, so you think that gives you a valid excuse to give them crap. I had a really negative opinion of them before, and one night i spoke to them. I think to be honest i spoke to them as a joke to begin with, but i remember in the conversation they said that they don't understand why people give them so much crap for playing the particular type of music they enjoy. Fair enough, they may not be the most talented band ever, but Fraz do you remember when you started writing music in your first bands, would you have appreciated someone saying that to you? Can't wait to get raped for this.