Jimboo

Now ,now that is a fair point but..........Distribution and actually getting the bands music to be heard is the biggest problem. It always has been the difference. Funny though if you think about it. Take Sony , record label , dvd and film distributor makers of cassettes and mini discs and cdr's their players and recording hardware. There advertising is telling you that you can record and make your own c.d's. The very small print reminds you that you must own the material. What did they think we would do with the technology? Make our own little mix tapes? Keep them to ourselves? Nah they made a rod for their own back. They bitched about cassettes (ruined album covers with that stupid pirate logo) If it caused them to lose so much money then why do they keep on making the technology better and more available? I download and i buy the album if i like it. I believe the artist should be able to make a living out of his work. Still once the touring costs and the video shoot etc , etc are taken away the poor bastards income is next to nothing. So what to do? I am not going to pay for a computer file of inferior quality. Perhaps the record companies need to be a little more selective concerning the acts they sign. 40 odd albums released a week? You need streaming and downloads to even have a small chance of being able to hear the sheer volume of music that is out there. We love music but it is seen nowadays as a cheap commodity like tesco own brand baked beans. The record companies could save bucks if they stopped the endless re-mastering , expanded , deluxe versions of every album they own. Be like the Rhino label a download could never replace their product.

Tangerine dream phaedra - perfect or zeit or atem. Anything by Cluster. Stars of the lid (very , very slow).

Different excellent utter shite.

How much are you wanting to spend ? Richer sounds are ok but it is a case of quantity over quality.

My God if you have never heard that lot before are you in for a treat!

"the mass of other, non-musical things that gave rise to Nirvana's popularity " You mean following their musical popularity it gave rise to all sort of non-musical reasons as to the perceeption of the band. Death , Suicide = Rock & Roll martyrdom. An untarnished image. A legacy is left and that turns into the myth. Then you have to play the records. Ok, verse chorus verse , screaming guitars , rawk vocals and a pretty boy singer. Nothing that new. To be fair before Nirvana the guitar was in danger of being so last year. They are not that bad. Cobain himself was not all that happy the way things got out of control. I would have liked to have seen where he was going next. Nirvana (i believe) were going to split and had Cobain managed to sort himself out who knows. He couldn't have done anything as bad as the Foo Fighters surely?

Just leave that thin wild mercury sound alone , ya hear?

There is little chance of anyone finding your webpage either. There is little chance of anyone finding or writing about your band. There is little chance of someone noticing your band as a free download amongst the others. It is not a realistic option.

I understand what you are saying. Look in the good old days when i fought the punk wars it was the same idea. You get labels like stiff and rough trade all trying to do the same thing. You still have to get the music to the people. So you have to be able to by pass traditional methods. You still as a musician have a right to earn a crust. If you want to play live to 3 guys in Biffy Clyro t-shirts and a fat guy polishing glasses in some grubby estate pub fine.

God help me , and they FIND it how? "hello mr radio dj me and my band do not want to sign for a record label. Here is our cdr give it a kisten and a spin will ya" ? "sure kid" " Hello mr record shop look here is a cdr from a band that refuses to be signed to the majors. Ignore your suppliers and put it in the window and give folks a free listen on them headphones on the wall , well just move the Interpol album somewhere else" "sure kid" We have a website named after our band and we are on my space . I know there are over 100 million web pages but we are gonna stand out well because WE are the new Monkeys cept we have conviction. Hey we have uploaded our album for free on your peer 2 peer site. I know you have never heard of us . We do not get played on the radio you cannot get our product in the shops but we got a website. Are we signed? No we don't believe in that. Why ? Cos we are teaching the majors a lesson. We are an unsigned band and we are gonna stay that way. Download our music for free and then we can buy new gear and studio time an er a transit van and get a really good producer for nothing. Yeah fuck the man!

oh , ok where?

How would that work?

do question the motives of any artists that sign to a major label (which is why I wouldn't even entertain the merest possibility of such a thing when it arose), Why?

Which part do you need clarifying? If an artist does not want to get paid for his work and is against being pimped. How are they to survive? Playing clubs and pubs. Again how many acts are "pure" How do you get your music to the people?

As opposed to who?