heh...... 'meanies notes'n'queries Huntley/Zorba was guitarist from formation in 1997 till spring 2003, when he was forced to retire due to 'der-der da-ding-ding-der' career commitments guitar duties since then performed by John Disco, former Bis kid Mick 'Bellend' Cooke has been trumpet/songwriter since 1997 re: 'utter pap', we might just have improved a wee bit since P in the Tent 1999 (for it was way back then), but its not really my place to say Come to The Tunnels and find out. http://www.amphetameanies.co.uk gordy meanie