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  1. SeaOfEnergy

    Your electronic productions

    https://soundcloud.com/anthrokerocene/fromthefeetup1
  2. SeaOfEnergy

    So, Phil Anselmo

    Cheers its something i hadn't really looked into in any kind of detail,had just a passing awareness of it before so it is interesting to find out a bit more. Oh and yea...totally! Wtf is he on...
  3. SeaOfEnergy

    So, Phil Anselmo

    I think this is relevant to our discussion and contains information i wasn't aware of so maybe others will find this interesting as well: 'Black Power adherents believed in Black autonomy, with a variety of tendencies such as black nationalism, and black separatism. Such positions caused friction with leaders of the mainstream Civil Rights Movement, and thus the two movements have sometimes been viewed as inherently antagonistic. However, many groups and individuals - including Rosa Parks,[8] Robert F. Williams, Maya Angelou, Gloria Richardson, and Fay Bellamy Powell - participated in both civil rights and black power activism. A growing number of scholars conceive of the civil rights and black power movements as one interconnected Black Freedom Movement.[9][10][11] Not all Black Power advocates were in favor of black separatism. While Stokely Carmichael and SNCC were in favor of separatism for a time in the late 1960s, organizations such as the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense were not. Though the Panthers considered themselves to be at war with the prevailing white supremacist power structure, they were not at war with all whites, but rather those (mostly white) individuals empowered by the injustices of the structure and responsible for its reproduction. 'Bobby Seale, Chairman and Co-Founder of the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, was outspoken about this. His stand was that the oppression of black people was more of a result of economic exploitation than anything innately racist. In his book Seize the Time, he states that "In our view it is a class struggle between the massive proletarian working class and the small, minority ruling class. Working-class people of all colors must unite against the exploitative, oppressive ruling class. So let me emphasize again—we believe our fight is a class struggle and not a race struggle."[12]' So some proponents of the panthers believed in equality and some believed in black nationalism or separatism. The emphasised part is along the lines of what i have been trying to say - its a battle i believe we all need to be a part of, for everyones behalf. From what it states there it seems Black Power can (as i initially suspected) effectively mean the same, to some people at least, as White Power, a desire to see one particular race as the sole autonomous force in its environment,or a demand for separation between communities of different race, which i would say is racist purely because its based on the idea of race being some kind of distinguishing factor, which is what the equality movement is supposed to be against. It doesn't always mean this though due to the various ideological positions that existed within the movement, as demonstrated by the part i highlighted, so i can see how it is more of a grey area when compared to white power , which is blatantly abhorrent because its from a position of historical privilege. Which i guess answers my initial questions because in Beyonces case , i expect that it is the anti-corruption,anti-exploitation and class struggle aspects of the movement she was going for. I should of just looked this shit up first!
  4. SeaOfEnergy

    So, Phil Anselmo

    Stroopy - I hear what your saying and I certainly don't think by ignoring it racism will just go away, I also think by the same token if we can't imagine a future where it ISNT an issue, then there wont be a future like that. The real problem is in who holds the reins of power and how that is abused to systemically disadvantage minorities, and I have as little control over that as you or anybody else in the general population does. I can vote whatever and still end up with the Establishment! Racism is abhorrent and I support any movement that seeks to empower disenfranchised peoples because we are all effectively the same and have the same requirements for living. I mean that's blatantly obvious. I just dislike how generalist the race discussion is. The oppression undoubtedly starts at the top, and others follow that lead. I'm not sure many people of any race had a whole lot of say in what their leaders did with their power over the course of history. I mean democracy isn't even functioning properly now. If someone ascribed the actions of our Tory government to me because I'm someone from the UK I would have to tell them to fuck off.
  5. SeaOfEnergy

    So, Phil Anselmo

    I expect someone will find ways to poke holes in my last post regardless of what I actually mean so I'm going to abandon this discussion due to the controversial nature of the subject and because I don't want to be unfairly judged for making a face-value observation that admittedly didn't consider the overall context in enough depth.
  6. SeaOfEnergy

    So, Phil Anselmo

    Your right of course, and in no way do I think that racism doesn't exist anymore, and I think its probably most evident( in terms of the UK) in London with the abuse of stop and search powers but nothing like on the scale of the US, where its systemic and frankly disgusting. I didn't say that racism/sexism doesn't exist or any of the other things your trying to pin on me for some reason either. Actually I edited that 'supposedly' out before you even replied to say it is rife. I only included the 'supposedly' initially because I have no first hand experience of this so only have what I read in the media to go on but then realised someone will probably jump down my throat about it if I left it in. And here you are. Really I just wanted to make a face value comparison between the 2 things as they do share unmistakeable similarities which to an alien or completely neutral observer with no previous knowledge of what has went on or what is going at the moment, could seem a bit strange. Young kids for example wouldn't understand the history of it or why its acceptable for black people to proclaim their power as a race but white people not. I just think its maybe a little dangerous to be proclaiming any kind of 'specific race/gender/religion' power because your just reminding everyone of divisions we are supposed to be trying to erode. I will accept in my initial question/musings that I was being overly simplistic and reductive, so I probably deserve the reductive reply. Interestingly this has appeared on the guardians website so there is another side to this I.e some people (admittedly their probably racist crazies who prefer to disregard racial discrimination in their history) see it as celebration of/incitement of violence against cops etc http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/feb/10/anti-beyonce-rally-planned-outside-nfl-headquarters-over-hate-speech I have no horses in this race, just an idealistic hope that people can be treated equally regardless of skin colour, which is the place where my initial observation came from. I hope you can understand that! These 'ism' subjects are an absolute minefield and it would really bother me if people thought I was somehow against the empowerment of minorities or the equality of people who are disenfranchised by any of humanities many flaws (i.e mysogeny etc).
  7. SeaOfEnergy

    So, Phil Anselmo

    I forgot about what 'discussions' on here were like. my mistake. I would just like to see a more inclusive 'human power' movement in the face of global oppressors who certainly don't distinguish by skin colour, rather than maintaining any kind of differentiation. At some point humanity will have to get over these barriers we have erected. America is a fucked place though where racism is still rife so i can see why my initial question is coming from a place of privilege and a lack of having to experience life there.
  8. SeaOfEnergy

    Rokit RP6 G2 reference speakers for sale

    looking for 130 o.n.o. Good condition, black, boxed with power cables.
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    Why are my posts deleted

    None of the posts I have had 'cleared' have any pictures or media in them at all .
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    Why are my posts deleted

    same
  11. SeaOfEnergy

    Death Metal Bassist required

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    Death Metal Bassist required

    still looking.
  13. SeaOfEnergy

    Boak

    punk with blasting - good shit!
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