Musically norma jean sound way to much like biohazard for me. Which does suggest cash in. Lyrics in music are very important to me, its not all about sound. I really dont see the point of listening to bands if you dont know what message they are trying to put across. Hence why zack de la rocha quit rage against the machine. Religious hardcore i dont agree with, hardcore for me is against the grain and anything else seems false to me. Would you really see religious fanatics listening to hardcore? I really much doubt it, Hell there is no way that youde see them playing norma jean at church on a sunday its just now "mainstream" enough