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betamax

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  1. my critisism only applies to musicians who have cash high on their agendas for being a musician plus those who get caught up in the whole money thing once they get a bit and it goes to their head Im also allowed to have my own ideology that music comes from a hobby should be free music I dont think Ive actually critised Geneveeve as a band either. So why the numerous hard ons?
  2. learn to read and engage your fucking brain for once you tit
  3. we usually play for free, we certainly never ask to be payed but occasionally a pushy promoter trys to pay us and then we ask for Red Wine instead
  4. I just mean, once you have professional involvement like label staff or a full time manager etc, then they need to be payed so its impossible to keep it all free. But untill then, Im all for keeping it free. Charging people for what you do for your own enjoyment in your free time seems twatish/pretentious to me. Most musos are pretentious twats* like so its logical. *This is a fact - I did it at University.
  5. ''seems to be claiming'' - your point is void You are twisting words Frosty Ass Money as a by-product of success and talent is fine Extracting money for your demos generally does not come under that heading IMO But If people want to do get into the whole money thing before theyve even cut their musical teeth then fine it cool, but beware of the dangers, more bands fight and split up because of cash than girlfriends! Like the sound of the pet shop thing though. Patent that.
  6. ....''or think you have''....THATS A CLUE! laugh if you want you idiotboy but no I mean just be realistic and dont get your hopes up about making a career in music, especially if making money is high up your list of motives for doing music in the first place - which judging by some of clueless and naive shit being written here, it blatantly is. Generally, the people who excel at music and have genuine talent and inspiration rarely consider doing it for cash when they start out. If they later make cash as a by-product of said talent, thats a bonus, but it seems theres quite a few wide eyed idoits lurking in aberdeen who have put cash up the agenda even higher than say ''enjoyment''. Taking it FAR too seriously imo, especially when you look at what talent there actually is. Its bullshit quite frankly. With a touch of ego fuelled blindness. So what Im saying is not ''stop'' its just make sure you do it for the right reasons ansd stay real, or yes you would be better off working at the TSB, and probably have more chance of acheiving your dream of riches if you put a few quid on the Lottery every week. I think statistically Im right on this. How many bands ever get to do it for a living compared the millions of bands there are in the world?
  7. and funnily enough its usually the free music that shines (like Sundaramusic!) K.B.K. will also always be free too unless theres any professional involvement.....if we could play live for free we would everytime but obviously its the venue policies to charge on the door dammit
  8. Im just against charging money for something which is the product of a hobby. Which is realistically all demos and EPs are. Its like somebody making imitation toy trains in a shed and then selling them for more than a real train, when all their only investment or business risk has been a few evenings work and the cost of some glue and balsa wood. ''But hey Ive got to pay for my Glue and Blasa wood maaaan!, and what about the cost of lighting my shed!!!!....If Im gonna build the HMS Victory and sell it to the Royal Navy then ill need to recoup my expenditaure on powering this 40 watt light bulb and the purchase of this workbench from Argos!!!!......and dont forget the cost of the petrol to the model-makers fair in Wigan!!! I want that back too!!! So I can pretend Im professional!!!'' Get real. From personal experience Ive had songs Ive written on both commercial realeases and done freebie demos etc and made the same from both .....next to nothing (after every else one else involved has taken their cut). But when I do a demo to hand round, Im sorry but Id be embarressed to ask people for money for it. Not because of the quality, but simply because a demo is not a commercial commodity, just something I did in my spare time, and would have done anyway for my own fun, so why ask my mates to give me cash for it???? Main point no one ever seems to get: If you do this whole music thing to make money or even ''break even'', then give up now. Go to college and get a job in a bank. If you DIY, you are talking pennies and wasting a lot of time counting them. If you get signed you are talking lots of cash. But not for you. Youll be in debt for years. Nothing against Geneveeve though, Im talking about the broader issue of bands fooling themselves that they can be sellable or profitable commodities. Plus: Music should be free anyway. (another thread)
  9. Thats expensive. I just got the Niles Barclay single for 1.79 and without being rude Id imagine it cost a lot more to make than your EP. I suggest you rethink your pricing policy. Demos, Eps or whatever you want to call them should be free imo. If theres a national or international distributor or full time label staff and/or management involved then thats when a charge should kick in. But without that, charging anything for a DIY CD is ripping people off.
  10. there might be a small chip but at least its mine, payed for and I can do what I want with it!
  11. so does that mean its now possible to sign yourself up to rip yourself off finantially and systematically destroy any talent you may have in favour of making the blandest possible mucical contribution in an attempt to pay of your signing on advance? think of it, 20 years of paying a debt back to yourself and self inflicted musical compromise! genius!
  12. guns dont kill people wappers doooo!
  13. Kick out the Jams – MC5 Funhouse – The Stooges International Rescue – Swell Maps Crossing the Red Sea with the Adverts – The Adverts Another Music in a Different Kitchen – Buzzcocks Peaches – The Teaches of Peaches Rembrant Pussy Horse – Butthole Surfers Never mind the Bollocks here’s the – Sex Pistols LCD Soundsystem – LCD Soundsystem Pink Flag – Wire Crass - Stations of the Crass Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables – Dead Kennedys Live at the Witch Trials - The Fall 2 x 45 – Cabaret Voltaire Prayers on Fire - The Birthday Party Entertainment – Gang of Four Ramones - Ramones Rid of Me - PJ Harvey Germ Free Adolesants - X Ray Spex Fever to Tell - Yeah Yeah Yeahs Killing Joke - Killing Joke Obviously the definition of punkness varies but mines based on albums that as well as being completely snotty and incendiary and therefor musically perfect, they also, on release flew in the face of everything else around at the time and still do to some extent despite lotsa attempts to copy them......a few recent ones too! No way just 10 was possible. Edit: added some more to annoy someone.
  14. Im out of synch with the majority on the YYYS album by the looks of it...... Fever To Tell is just such a special, dirty, brutal and unhinged record. I love the live feel to it. The new one sounds ok really but its quite erm, normal and ordinary. Id expected Fever to Tell with knobs on. Not a glossy radio freindly album with a couple of obvious hit singles on it. Its like what happened to PJ Harvey's style after the awesome ''Rid Of Me'' album. The next few albums just got more and more like regular safe indie records as they tried to market her for wider audiences, which imo is a waste of talent and probably why she never really reached her true potential. Blah Blah.... Anyway dont get me wrong, The YYYs are still up there as one of the best bands of now imo, and one slightly disappointing album (to me at least) dosent alter my sick adoration of Karen O! For info: Flaming Lips were finally ejected from the Betamax Sound System yesterday in favour of the old fave Nouvelle Vague* album and the new Hed Kandi Twisted Disco comp. The Lips are now relegated to in-car entertainment. *this is classic and everyone should own it if they dont already if only for the fantastic cover versions of Too drunk to Fuck (Dead Kennedys) and Pssyche (Killing Joke).
  15. I love it. Nothing else is getting near my cd player as a result. Mostly late nite lazy listening. I like it better than Yoshimi overall, althouigh theres nothing quite as immense as ''Fight Test'' or ''Do you realise?'' on it. Im seriously underwhelmed by the YeahYeahYeahs album tho.....what the fuck happened there?
  16. Realm of The Shopping Trolley @ Drummonds circa 1991 Walked in stright from the train station on my first day of the banana boat from Northern England as an immigrant to Aberdeen. Saw this great band, from Glasgow (I think) and decided i liked it here. Also went to Wild Boar for food and liked it there too. Rarely been home since. Yo.
  17. i generally vote for the female singer with the hairiest armpits or sweatiest back but ill be voting for anything but this preposterous rock rubbish as this is a democratic erection absolutely love da eurovision, highlight of zee musical calender (sort of), and always a good drunken euro party at chez betamax yo
  18. gotta say that the tunes spun were absolutely top class all nite, nice to hear reggae played so loud (how it should be heard imo), it made we wonder if the PA was gonna blow up - plus wee Horace was remarkable as expected!
  19. It did pull a good crowd which was nice to see, Id kinda half expected it to be quiet cos Id not seen a lot of publicity. V good nite.
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