Very true Mr Morrison. Some of us oldies have now seen 2 'Drakes' venues live and die. Drakes was always somewhere that you could have your first gig and i have many memories from both venues back in my Psychoagogo and then Dos Dedos days. The 'scene' was, as others have said, different in those days. There were less bands. And those of us in bands knew most of the other bands on the go. Getting people to come to gigs and support local bands is the age old problem....... Cost is possibly a major factor, but people in Aberdeen have never been big on watching local bands. The closure of venues such as Drakes, however, does not help us at all.................. Steve