legal advice please

[ZeromiserY]

we just got booted out of our practice space at the quay (shore porters lock ups).

environmental health burst in through the door saying we'd gotten complaints about noise levels.

they told us the people who live across the road ( a dual carriage way i might add) had complained several times about the noise. keep in mind this was 2:30 pm and we didnt even have our bassist.

told us 'stop now or we'll take legal action'.

anyone know the legal decibel level for daytime ? as i said, just after 2pm we got stopped.
also, what time does it change to lesser levels?

[milner]

Originally Posted by ZeromiserY

we just got booted out of our practice space at the quay (shore porters lock ups).

environmental health burst in through the door saying we'd gotten complaints about noise levels.

they told us the people who live across the road ( a dual carriage way i might add) had complained several times about the noise. keep in mind this was 2:30 pm and we didnt even have our bassist.

told us 'stop now or we'll take legal action'.

anyone know the legal decibel level for daytime ? as i said, just after 2pm we got stopped.
also, what time does it change to lesser levels?

did they say the complaints had been made during the day or were they at different times?
To be honest let them take legal action, you dont own the shore porters place i assume, so they wouldnt take legal action against you, rather the people that own the building, thats if they actually do it. Did you get to see their badges when you spoke to them?

[Twojoe]

If it was the Environmental Health than it may be best to listen to them... Legal action on any side is just a waste of money and if you have been warned, which they won't do lightly, then you are against the ropes I'm afraid.

Sucky though

[ZeromiserY]

no badges, no decibel reading (that we were told of) and on the whole they were (*camp voice) just plain rude.

is there any way we can contest it? i mean as in say ' eh, no bam....its nae at lood' .

i phoned the environmental health office of the council last night to see if they took a reading but it was closed and now i cant get through.

thanks for the tips btw

edit : and it was different times. we play during the day when traffic there is heavy.
the police were called on saturday night about another band. thats the other thing, theres something like 7 bands play there.

[soundian]

They didn't show ID and didn't give you any bits of paper with "Noise Abatement Order" or similar title.
Doesn't sound like EH to me.
Also bursting in without being invited or having a court order is almost certainly outwith their powers.
If these guys were EH, which I have serious doubts about, I'm sure there bosses would love to know about them entering private property uninvited and not showing ID or the correct paperwork.

If it was EH, they can confiscate your equipment if you don't cease though. Best to get a hold of them and clarify the situation first.

[ZeromiserY]

Originally Posted by soundian

They didn't show ID and didn't give you any bits of paper with "Noise Abatement Order" or similar title.
Doesn't sound like EH to me.
Also bursting in without being invited or having a court order is almost certainly outwith their powers.
If these guys were EH, which I have serious doubts about, I'm sure there bosses would love to know about them entering private property uninvited and not showing ID or the correct paperwork.

If it was EH, they can confiscate your equipment if you don't cease though. Best to get a hold of them and clarify the situation first.

thats exactly what i needed to know.

*picks up the phone

will let you know when i can get through and get some kind of response.

being the council, the office was closed bang on 5 o'clock yesterday.

[scottST]

hey dude, we practice there too, we're expecting a booting-out tonight too.

is this the end of the lockup as we know it?

[milner]

Originally Posted by soundian

They didn't show ID and didn't give you any bits of paper with "Noise Abatement Order" or similar title.
Doesn't sound like EH to me.
Also bursting in without being invited or having a court order is almost certainly outwith their powers.
If these guys were EH, which I have serious doubts about, I'm sure there bosses would love to know about them entering private property uninvited and not showing ID or the correct paperwork.

If it was EH, they can confiscate your equipment if you don't cease though. Best to get a hold of them and clarify the situation first.

exactly when we had a problem they wouldnt even come near the place without arranging it with us first, and also they took readings before anything further was said to us. Also being the council they would write to you first before this happened, as we found out to our annoyance the council will not do anything unless they write to you about it. Also i highly doubt that the noise would be passing over a dual carrage way unless it is ridiculously loud, at the Lok Up we had residential buildings right next door and appart from a few isolated incidents we were fine noise wise.

However having said all that, if they are the real deal i would watch out, these cunts are not plesant to deal with most of the time, pm me if you want any more info that i think could help but i dont want to post up.

[ZeromiserY]

Originally Posted by scottST

hey dude, we practice there too, we're expecting a booting-out tonight too.

is this the end of the lockup as we know it?

erm, my drum kit is outta there, (the red kit that most of the bands used).

so if you were one of the bands which used it your going to need to use another kit. there is only that blue one left in there and im not sure who's it is.

also. they said they would take legal action if we didnt stop there and then and it went for the other bands as well. i would have posted up on the lock up forum but dont have a link to it.

[RF Scott]

The fact that you told them to 'go fuck yourself' is hardly going to help matters, is it?
The same goes for TP'ing the lock up after leaving.