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Old 14-02-2006, 16:56   #11 (permalink)

 
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Just back from cleaning up ure mess, cheers guys..

and as it stands we're fucked, they've issued a Noise Abatement Order which means the next time there is a complaint we lose our lease, so we've had to end it, last band practise 2nite and Im afraid thats it, we cant even contest it in anyway..I stayed off uni to do as much phone calling as I could but EH have the power to do all this through their own legislation. Im meeting the head of EH next week but thats just so I can speak to them face to face..

We're now on the look for empty lockups etc. as we have got everything we need (equip wise) to start another one..
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Old 14-02-2006, 17:15   #12 (permalink)

 
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Just back from cleaning up ure mess, cheers guys..

and as it stands we're fucked, they've issued a Noise Abatement Order which means the next time there is a complaint we lose our lease, so we've had to end it, last band practise 2nite and Im afraid thats it, we cant even contest it in anyway..I stayed off uni to do as much phone calling as I could but EH have the power to do all this through their own legislation. Im meeting the head of EH next week but thats just so I can speak to them face to face..

We're now on the look for empty lockups etc. as we have got everything we need (equip wise) to start another one..

Can we band metal bands from this one? I think they might be too angry to practice. They all need a nice sick-up and a lie down.
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Just back from cleaning up ure mess, cheers guys..

and as it stands we're fucked, they've issued a Noise Abatement Order which means the next time there is a complaint we lose our lease, so we've had to end it, last band practise 2nite and Im afraid thats it, we cant even contest it in anyway..I stayed off uni to do as much phone calling as I could but EH have the power to do all this through their own legislation. Im meeting the head of EH next week but thats just so I can speak to them face to face..

We're now on the look for empty lockups etc. as we have got everything we need (equip wise) to start another one..
Hey, i notice Zeromisery mentioned before that he tried to find out if they took a reading but couldn't get hold of them or something. Did you find out if they actually did? If so the noise level will have been recorded in a register which is open to public inspection. Find out if the noise recorded actually exceeded the advisory level because decisions have been made in the English courts (London Borough of Lewisham v Fenner 1995) that as long as the noise falls within the advisory standards then, despite any well founded complaints, the action was not well founded. This was in England but the same might hold true in Scotland. If so they can't take action purely because of complaints, you need to have exceeded the advisory noise level. You should definitely find out if they recorded a noise level and what it was. On the other hand it might be easier for you to just move to another lock up.
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if its where i think it is i think the building across the road (not the duel carriage way road, the one as you come out of the doors of the lock ups) from those lock ups has people living in it so could of been them that complained. we practise in one of the lock ups on that street and were told to keep it down by the guy that leases it if we are practising late at night.
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Hey, i notice Zeromisery mentioned before that he tried to find out if they took a reading but couldn't get hold of them or something. Did you find out if they actually did? If so the noise level will have been recorded in a register which is open to public inspection. Find out if the noise recorded actually exceeded the advisory level because decisions have been made in the English courts (London Borough of Lewisham v Fenner 1995) that as long as the noise falls within the advisory standards then, despite any well founded complaints, the action was not well founded. This was in England but the same might hold true in Scotland. If so they can't take action purely because of complaints, you need to have exceeded the advisory noise level. You should definitely find out if they recorded a noise level and what it was. On the other hand it might be easier for you to just move to another lock up.
They havent recorded a sound level but say theyve been in the residents homes that are complaining an beleive it to be over the level of acceptance.. they said they dont deal with readings either, its upto their proffesional opinion.
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I'd say that sounds like bullshit but my knowledge is limited to a quick flick through an Evironmental Law textbook.
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yeh that def sounds dogy, if they dont take a reading they cannot enforce what they are saying by law, again we had to deal with this and before they could take anything further they had to do tests when bands were playing during the day and during the evening, with us during the day the traffic going past on the dual carrage way was enough to drown out the sound of any band practising so i cannot see why for any reason it would be different for you guys. Dont let them push you around, ask them to come and take readings to back up the complaints or legaly speaking they cant throw you out or take any legal action against you.
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thats us had our final practice and removed 99% of our gear (except our guitarists stuff, we're taking it to RNB tomorrow for a service anyway so it saves a journey by leaving it in the lockup. it'll be shifted tomorrow anyways!)

its been a great time in that little cave, had a lot of character.

anyone willing to give a good band (or 6) a home?
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The fact that you told them to 'go fuck yourself' is hardly going to help matters, is it?
The same goes for TP'ing the lock up after leaving.
uhm, we told no-one to go fuck themselves.

p.s, tp is harmless.
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uhm, we told no-one to go fuck themselves.

p.s, tp is harmless.

I think you need a nice sick-up and a lie down. That would get all the anger out. It's probably just gas anyway.
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