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Old 25-08-2009, 15:10   #1 (permalink)

 
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What's everyone's thoughts on Jim Leiighton ebing let go by Mark McGhee ?

As i don't like Mark McGhee I see it as another big mistake, how bad would Langfield be without that coaching, well it looks like we'll find out.

I guess theres no loyalty in football anymore

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McGhee is taking the piss, I'm pretty sure he's just trying to stamp his authority and show who's boss but this time it is definitely to detriment of a really good member of backroom staff. After all, Langfield was of course "clangers" until not too long ago.....
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You guys can't have it both ways.

We're skint, and need to cut costs wherever possible. I think the decision makes complete sense in light of McGhee's budget, and sadly while Leighton is a club legend, there is no place for sentiment in business.

Getting in a "multitasker" makes good sense in the circumstances. Langfield was a talented goalkeeper anyway, and I very much doubt that Leighton can take all the credit for the turnaround in his form recently.

Sad to see him go, but a good business decision IMO.
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Lots of suggestions around that Leighton was infact a rubbish coach. While it's obvious to commend him for the work he's done with Langfield, it's not a ridiculous suggestion that Langfield would have improved regardless (I personally think that it's a confidence thing with Clangers anyway - he's always been a decent 'keeper).

McGhee's not taking the piss, I like what he's doing. Going into the club with a fresh outlook is refreshing. Leighton is and always will be a complete Dons legend, but we simply can't afford to keep him on if the cash can be better spent elsewhere (as MM has said - a coach who can do more than just coaching goalkeepers).

Obviously time will tell, but I like McGhee's no-nonsense attitude and he's making the right noises with me - he knows he has a job on to rebuild the club, and he's taking steps to do so. Correctly starting with his backroom staff.
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Lots of suggestions around that Leighton was infact a rubbish coach. While it's obvious to commend him for the work he's done with Langfield, it's not a ridiculous suggestion that Langfield would have improved regardless (I personally think that it's a confidence thing with Clangers anyway - he's always been a decent 'keeper).

McGhee's not taking the piss, I like what he's doing. Going into the club with a fresh outlook is refreshing. Leighton is and always will be a complete Dons legend, but we simply can't afford to keep him on if the cash can be better spent elsewhere (as MM has said - a coach who can do more than just coaching goalkeepers).

Obviously time will tell, but I like McGhee's no-nonsense attitude and he's making the right noises with me - he knows he has a job on to rebuild the club, and he's taking steps to do so. Correctly starting with his backroom staff.
Yep, I've also heard that Leighton's position was basically an honorary role for services rendered over the years.

Couldn't comment on how good/bad his coaching was, but he's a luxury too far at the mo'.
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As things stand, we need further budget for players so letting some backroom staff go and getting in "multi-taskers" as McGhee put it isn't a bad idea in my opinion. I feel sorry for Leighton as he is a club legend but with restrictions on bringing in players due to finances, then McGhee needs to be smart, not sentimental, about how he uses his budget. Getting rid of a goalkeeping coach and an osteopath may contribute to bringing in another player or a loan signing for the season, which we need with the squad being thin.
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Wasn't he responsible for that clown dude Bossu. The money would be better spent hiring Stuart Kennedy as 'Tache Development Officer; nae 'tache nae trophies.
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Whats happened to all the guaranteed money that the club allegedly had and that Willie Miller said wouldn't be affected by Setanta going down? It's amazed me tbh that people have given McGhee so much more leeway than they gave Calderwood when he's doing the same stuff so far, with what looks like less success, ie scraping around for the cheapest players and takign the rubbish no-one else wants.

McGhee promised that there was all this money for new signings etc and just a few weeks ago said there was enough for several and yet can't even keep his backroom staff for financial reasons, and doesnt really seem to have done very well at signing, I think McGhee is a mistake and I'm willing to bet he will be worse than Calderwood over a few years if he even stays that long.

As Jim Leighton is also a goalkeeping coach for Scotland (albeit the junior squads) I can't imagine that he isnt a very good coach tbh.

I think Aberdeen became a joke with the sacking of their most successfull manager in years at the end of last season - and then having to pay 700,000 for the pleasure, which is probably more cash than he had in his whole time at aberdeen for transfers -and have continued on that way by claiming theres mioney when there isnt and hiring someone who would rather have had the Celtic job.
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Fuck's sake. Give the guy a chance! He's inherited a shit squad that was falling apart for the last season or two and Calderwood did nothing about it.

McGhee deserves time to put his on stamp on the club and unlike Calderwood he's at least shouldered the responsiblity for everything that has happened since he took over.

I seriously wonder about some of our fans sometimes.
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Whats happened to all the guaranteed money that the club allegedly had and that Willie Miller said wouldn't be affected by Setanta going down? It's amazed me tbh that people have given McGhee so much more leeway than they gave Calderwood when he's doing the same stuff so far, with what looks like less success, ie scraping around for the cheapest players and takign the rubbish no-one else wants.

McGhee promised that there was all this money for new signings etc and just a few weeks ago said there was enough for several and yet can't even keep his backroom staff for financial reasons, and doesnt really seem to have done very well at signing, I think McGhee is a mistake and I'm willing to bet he will be worse than Calderwood over a few years if he even stays that long.

As Jim Leighton is also a goalkeeping coach for Scotland (albeit the junior squads) I can't imagine that he isnt a very good coach tbh.

I think Aberdeen became a joke with the sacking of their most successfull manager in years at the end of last season - and then having to pay 700,000 for the pleasure, which is probably more cash than he had in his whole time at aberdeen for transfers -and have continued on that way by claiming theres mioney when there isnt and hiring someone who would rather have had the Celtic job.
Personally I was in the "keep Calderwood" camp as well, but that ship has sailed and we are where we are.....whether you like McGhee as a coach or not is irrelevant now, he's probably here for the longish term so get used to it.

The Setanta deal has bitten harder than expected which coupled with the Europa debacle has given us a budget nightmare, which needs addressing. Forget your loyalty to Leighton and just answer a simple question......is a one-trick pony goalkeeping coach plus another coach better value for money than a single coach who can fulfil both roles for half the money? Ummm.....duh.

And you refer to McGhee getting more leeway than Calderwood.....with regards to what? Signing players!? Calderwood was shopping around in the bargain bucket long before the Setanta deal went kaput.......McGhee only has a small fraction of what Calderwood had back then, so please don't try and kid on that McGhee is acting like a mug by buying "the rubbish no-one else wants". You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.
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