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[-matthEw-]

been reading a few footy message boards tonight and being on the eve of an international match i've read an alarming amount of people who have a really strong dislike for all things regarding "The Tartan Army".

its something i just can't quite wrap my head around. to me it has never been a dilema. i've never ever seen the contradiction in supporting the Dons and Scotland 100%, yet, as far as club football forums seem to show, i'm in the minority.

the main issue seems to lie in that you can literally hate Barry Ferguson in a Rangers' top one week then cheer him on for Scotland the next. it just got me thinking of how fucked up the psyche of a football fan is and how maybe these international haters had a point.

so...discuss

[Alan Cynic]

I hate Barry Ferguson as much as the next person....but when he's in a Scotland shirt I'll root for him. Hell, I'd even cheer Kirk Broadfoot on, should plague wipe out the defence and he gets a game. The only players I've had reservations about have been non-Scots drafted in because their granny was Scottish (although even some of them I've come round to if it looked like they'd have kicked their other (non-Scottish) granny for the cause.

[idol_wild]

I'll always be club over country. I have invested a lot of time, money, and emotions into supporting my club and I am just not fussed about doing the same for the Scottish national team. To me, supporting your club is more tribal and evokes more passion.

The Scottish national team has never really grabbed me. I usually watch the games and cheer them on and, yes, I do get caught in the emotion of it all if I am watching the games with friends in a pub, but not nearly to the same extent as cheering on my club.

In essence, I relate to my club a lot more than the national team.

[Larsen B]

Originally Posted by idol_wild

I'll always be club over country. I have invested a lot of time, money, and emotions into supporting my club and I am just not fussed about doing the same for the Scottish national team. To me, supporting your club is more tribal and evokes more passion.

The Scottish national team has never really grabbed me. I usually watch the games and cheer them on and, yes, I do get caught in the emotion of it all if I am watching the games with friends in a pub, but not nearly to the same extent as cheering on my club.

In essence, I relate to my club a lot more than the national team.

I agree, but I really do enjoy the rare opportunity to come together with my friends in support of the same team.

[KimyReizeger]

Originally Posted by idol_wild

The Scottish national team has never really grabbed me.

In essence, I relate to my club a lot more than the national team

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Compare with:

I was...encouraged to adopt the local dialect, but actively chose to speak in a more general Scottish tongue because of how repugnant I find doric

So you love the local tribe but actively dissociate yourself from their disgusting way of talking. How do you get by singing 'Stand Free'?

[Jan]

I've always had a certain detached feeling towards both my club and country (Celtic and Ireland respectively) due to 18 years residing in Shetland, so I have never had the camaraderie that Larsen B has felt about his country.

I'm certainly not one over the other...

[Larsen B]

Originally Posted by Jan Deal

I've always had a certain detached feeling towards both my club and country (Celtic and Ireland respectively) due to 18 years residing in Shetland, so I have never had to camaraderie that Larsen B has felt about his country.

I'm certainly not one over the other...

Well, I perhaps came over too strongly. I'm no patriot (not that you said I was), and the degree to which I follow Scotland can be judged by the fact I've never attended a Scotland game. It's only the rare opportunity for some football related camaraderie amongst my close friends really, as opposed to with the whole nation.

[StewCat]

i support the scotland team although its full of players i dispise which, at times makes it hard to support them.

watched the macedonia vs scotland game today and found myself screaming at the tv like a crazy person.

i was reading something in another post when someone (or somehun) said "kenny miller is underrated as a scotland player"...YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING! he's sooo shite its unbelievabe. he gets two flookie goals agains celtic last week now everyone has a boner over him. he's shite. so are rangers.

as for the rest of the team. it wasnt entretaining football. i found myself flicking over to sky sports 1 for entertainment (i pressed the red button during the wales match and selected the welsh commentery - priceless!) ....none of the scotland players had any flair about them or had the hunger to win, playing against a shit team...who we should have drawn with AT THE VERY LEAST!! although i will say playing away from home is never easy and the ref ignored two blatant penaltys.

...but if it was a case of Scotland national team vs Aberdeen FC...i'd support the dons.

and for the record if it was Rangers vs a team of Italian Nazi Child Rapists i'd support the latter.

[idol_wild]

Originally Posted by KimyReizeger

Compare with:



So you love the local tribe but actively dissociate yourself from their disgusting way of talking.

Yes. You can try and make out like it's a contradiction, but it's not. Plus, by tribal I don't necessarily mean regional or local. Aberdeen have supporters from all over Scotland (quite a lot in the central belt, too). I just mean one group of people supporting the same team week-in and week-out.

And besides, when Aberdeen supporters sing/chant they don't sound collectively doric. So I get by just fine, just like other other non-doric speaking Aberdeen fans.

[Alan Cynic]

Originally Posted by StewCat

i support the scotland team although its full of players i dispise which, at times makes it hard to support them.



...but if it was a case of Scotland national team vs Aberdeen FC...i'd support the dons.

and for the record if it was Rangers vs a team of Italian Nazi Child Rapists i'd support the latter.

Agreed on the Dons vs Scotland,..........not so sure about the Gers.....I usually want them to win in Europe.