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[Jim Stax]

Originally Posted by calum

I thought he did alright when he came on. Another striker who suffers from a lack of support. He looked better than Derek Young anyway.

I think Derek Young hasn't been too bad... Good first half yesterday but vanished in the 2nd half, along with the rest of them... Saving energy for Thursday, they'll need it I reckon

[Sam L4]

Is Thursdays' game on the box?

[PVH]

Channel one i believe.

[stuartmaxwell]

a decent performance from montrose, lacked the finishing though. missed penalty was a stinger. dumbarton are a bit rubbish and the result flattered them

[Jim Stax]

Originally Posted by PVH

Channel one i believe.

6pm Fricken special that like... news anahin being bumped

[Camie]

Is it not on bbc2?

[Marsh]

For what it's worth I can pinpoint exactly why Aberdeen haven't been performing - Seve. the "captain" all too often fades in and out of games, moans at the refs far too often, struts about the park and is far too quick to pass the buck to his team - mates. Interestingly, I was watching the Everton v Boro game this afternoon and they commented that Gareth Southgate's most difficult decision as a manager was when he left out his Captain, Boateng. I just thought Jimmy would never do such a thing to a "senior player" like Severin and, in my opinion, this sort of thing is the root of evil at the club right now. Some players seem to pick themselves because they are "senior players" or give Jimmy an apple every week or whatever. He's brought in a heap of players and they don't even get a look - in when the established players are failing to even get motivated , let alone put in a decent shift for the team and the paying fans. A lack of commitment is a pure crime at a club like Aberdeen. I don't mind if we get beat 4 - 0 if every player puts in a committed, 100% shift. I'm just not seeing enough of that at the moment, particularly from our leader.

The loss of Russell as a leader, not just as a player has really set in and I don't see any leadership on the pitch whatsoever.

Mackie was far worse than Derek Young on Saturday. No contest. I mean, Young didn't set the game on fire, but at least he had the ball under control at some time.

What's happened to Hart's crossing ability? He has been in decline since day 1 of the season.

Also, after Saturday I can see why the United fans were so annoyed at paying a Q.M. for Lee Miller. What a joke.

And, finally - I hope Soutar gives Jimmy the biggest hiding of his life when he puts in and hopefully gets his transfer in January. This incident sums up Jimmy more than anything. Deplorable.

Plus points:

Jamie Smith is slowly finding form again. He really could be our most important player if he is flying.

de Visscher got his home debut and some pitch time. He looked alright but needs to adjust. Give him time like Jimmy needs to.

Diamond & Considine continue to improve, Zander even back to his near best. This will need to continue if we are to make the top six his season (sounds like a piss - take but I'm serious.)

Europe on Thursday! Let's pray for a minor miracle and hope we can scrape it. As long as the same doesn't happen to us as what happened to Hibs, eh?

[calum]

I think people expect too much from Severin. Unless he's single handedly running the show everyone's on his back, which just irritates the hell out of me. When he plays at centre back, it's not his game to go out and win the ball in the way Diamond does. That doesn't mean he's not constantly organising and giving the team the sense of stability and security the likes of Considine badly need. Even when he's in midfield, playing with Nicholson, Clark and Smith means that he pretty much always has to sit back while they go forward, so he can't always have an obvious influence. But I wouldn't fault his work rate and I wouldn't have given the captaincy to anyone else.

Basically, I think a lot of Dons fans just don't notice how much work he actually gets through and don't appreciate the value of quietly effective players.

And as for him moaning at referees, I think, especially against the Old Firm, Aberdeen need to remind the referee that there's two teams on the park so I don't have a problem with it.

[Sam L4]

Scotland-Italy tickets go on sale tomorrow. There is a Virgin near me that is selling, does anybody know if these will be on sale at 9am?

[Sam L4]

Originally Posted by Sam L4

Scotland-Italy tickets go on sale tomorrow. There is a Virgin near me that is selling, does anybody know if these will be on sale at 9am?

Ignore this.