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[Alvin Starclusk]

Originally Posted by Brymon

I wouldnt really say it was undeserved as if any other team got it, they wont really have deserved it. Whether its Aberdeen or Hearts who get (Please be the Mighty Dons) they are just showing that they are the best of an utterly shite bunch!!!

Exactly. I realise that my drunken use of the word "deserved" may have been inappropriate, but I think the point I was trying to get across was the fact that Hearts have been utter, unmitigated shite this season, but there's still every chance we'll get into the UEFA Cup. I bet there'll be plenty of Aberdeen fans saying that Hearts don't
"deserve" the UEFA Cup qualification if we get third place on that very basis.

[french_disko]

Originally Posted by Alvin Starclusk

Ha ha! So let me get this straight, I'm an "armchair fan" for only watching a team I don't support on tv?

It's an interesting criteria for deciding who's a proper fan that you've suggested - how about nobody goes to watch the team they support any more and instead go and watch random games of teams they don't. That way they can make a rounded, fair judgement of all the other teams in the league and not use something so arbitrary as what they've seen on the tv.

Idiot.

And yes, the dons have *not* looked that great this season.

Proper fan? Who mentioned that?

the "armchair fan" was in a seperate line to highlight the "everyone's a critic" nature of us all (especially on an internet message board). Mayeb I should highlight these things with a smiley face to make them easier to understand.

and you've just argued with yourself - you (rightly) point out that unless you attend every game by every team then you can never make a full judgement. Then you go and slag an Aberdeen team off that you've only seen on Tv...

Care to elaborate on the "idiot" comment that resorted to? I'd like to think we could have a reasoned conversation without resorting to petty and childish name calling.

[Marsh]

Bottled it again yesterday.

Considine was murder, but he's only 19 and as long as he learns that's fine. Not saying he's off the hook or above critisicm, but he has to learn to be a better player.

A true man of the match performance by Foster who I used to slate and say had no place at the club yesterday - most of the team could have learned something from him yesterday. His goal was goal of the season for Aberdeen - truly stunning and even more so from a guy playing left back. He was further up the park than the frankly shocking Jamie Smith and Chris Clark yesterday. Smith's clearly not fit and it's a joke he's back in the first team without any reserve action.

Mackie is directly responsible for us losing the game. I never like to single one out but his penalty was dire - beyond dire in fact when we needed a bit of composure. His miss at the end summed up his contribution yesterday. Langfield was utter pish again and if Jimmy can't see how utterly undependable and poor this guy is the worse we will do.

Brewster looked exactly like a 40 year old man trying to keep up with a bunch of kids way younger than him. He was fucking awful and I'm just so glad we cheered for Lovell to let Jimmy know exactly how shite he is and how much better Steve is.

Seve - couldn't get a grip of the game and too willing to pass the buck again.

We can't win when we play against 10 men for most of the 2nd half. We can't even beat 9 men. At home for fuck's sake.

Time for a reality check - Jimmy's tactics are woeful. Jimmy is a clown. We are big time bottlers. The Pittodrie atmosphere is dire. It's no wonder there are "stay away" fans.

Dundee United, who beat us 4 -2 at Pittodrie last week got beat by Dunfermline. Who are second bottom (no offence, Jake.)

There's no excuses - we are failing to win games when it really counts. Thank God Rangers beat Hearts to keep us in it. It would be so sweet to stick it down the throat of the Lithuanian banker and his seemingly everlasting cheque book by getting to third place by spending little cash and having a pool of players who are 95% Scottish (Five Aberdonians played yesterday.) No matter how shite we are, no matter how lucky we are, no matter how bad everyone else is, this is still our team with our boys.

[Jake Wifebeater]

Originally Posted by Marsh

Dundee United, who beat us 4 -2 at Pittodrie last week got beat by Dunfermline. Who are second bottom (no offence, Jake.)

None taken, we're actually bottom!

[-matthEw-]

we'll still sneak it, but we'll make hard work of it. i cant see us getting anything less than 3 points against killie. i'll be going down to Tynecastle which means we'll win (the two times ive been there on league business have been the only two we've won in recent years) and then gub the huns at home on the last game of the season.


easy.

[Johnny Mac]

Originally Posted by Marsh

Bottled it again yesterday.

Considine was murder, but he's only 19 and as long as he learns that's fine. Not saying he's off the hook or above critisicm, but he has to learn to be a better player.

A true man of the match performance by Foster who I used to slate and say had no place at the club yesterday - most of the team could have learned something from him yesterday. His goal was goal of the season for Aberdeen - truly stunning and even more so from a guy playing left back. He was further up the park than the frankly shocking Jamie Smith and Chris Clark yesterday. Smith's clearly not fit and it's a joke he's back in the first team without any reserve action.

Mackie is directly responsible for us losing the game. I never like to single one out but his penalty was dire - beyond dire in fact when we needed a bit of composure. His miss at the end summed up his contribution yesterday. Langfield was utter pish again and if Jimmy can't see how utterly undependable and poor this guy is the worse we will do.

Brewster looked exactly like a 40 year old man trying to keep up with a bunch of kids way younger than him. He was fucking awful and I'm just so glad we cheered for Lovell to let Jimmy know exactly how shite he is and how much better Steve is.

Seve - couldn't get a grip of the game and too willing to pass the buck again.

We can't win when we play against 10 men for most of the 2nd half. We can't even beat 9 men. At home for fuck's sake.

Time for a reality check - Jimmy's tactics are woeful. Jimmy is a clown. We are big time bottlers. The Pittodrie atmosphere is dire. It's no wonder there are "stay away" fans.

Dundee United, who beat us 4 -2 at Pittodrie last week got beat by Dunfermline. Who are second bottom (no offence, Jake.)

There's no excuses - we are failing to win games when it really counts. Thank God Rangers beat Hearts to keep us in it. It would be so sweet to stick it down the throat of the Lithuanian banker and his seemingly everlasting cheque book by getting to third place by spending little cash and having a pool of players who are 95% Scottish (Five Aberdonians played yesterday.) No matter how shite we are, no matter how lucky we are, no matter how bad everyone else is, this is still our team with our boys.

I agree with that 100%. Saves me typing it all out.

[Marsh]

Originally Posted by Jake Spike

None taken, we're actually bottom!

But will finish second bottom, that's what I meant!

I still think you'll do it.

[Marsh]

Originally Posted by -matthEw-

i cant see us getting anything less than 3 points against killie.

That's what we said going into the United game and Saturday's game was a "must win." Look what happened there.

I honestly think no fan can now say "we will win" or "can't see us losing" anymore. Like I said yesterday - time for a reality check - every game is a struggle.

Okay, I may be wrong and we might thrash them, but I think the whole culture of asuming we will win games (or at least go in the favourites) outwith the Old Firm is redundant. The simple fact is until we have a bit of direction and consistency at the club we can never assume we will win ANY game.

That said Saturday may well decide whether we make it into Europe or not so I HOPE we can get a result. Whether the players will realise they are playing for a European place, let alone in the SPL and not Sunday League will be a different story.

[Johnny Mac]

We'll blow third place now.

We don't have the bottle.

I can't wait for the season to be over, only 2 more horror home games to attend.

We'd only embarrass ourselves in Europe anyway.

[Marsh]

Originally Posted by Johnny Mac

only 2 more horror home games to attend.

Change of heart from last week?

Originally Posted by Johnny Mac

Not going back this season

At least if you come along you can say "I was there" at the moment we blew third place in the 2006/7 season.....