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[drahcirv1]

No need to panic though.
Its 2 months after they start it up that they expect to start the proton beams colliding and 5 to 10 years before they get any significant results.

So even if it does destroy use all we still have at least 2 months to get all those little last minute things done.

[pixie]

IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN (dadadada dadadadada dadadada dadadadadadada)

THE END IS NIGH!

[Skull Commander]

http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums...-tomorrow.html

[pixie]

Yes, apparantly they are switching it on today but starting experiments tomorrow

[Ithaca]

£500 million. Bargain! What's it do again? Oh yeah, science stuff! We'll have a better understanding of the universe. 1.1 billion people don't have clean water, but it's ok 'cause we'll all find out a little more about dark matter!

[french_disko]

Originally Posted by Ithaca

£500 million. Bargain! What's it do again? Oh yeah, science stuff! We'll have a better understanding of the universe. 1.1 billion people don't have clean water, but it's ok 'cause we'll all find out a little more about dark matter!

By that logic, why are you using a computer or using central heating or driving a car when there's 1.1 billion people without clean water?

[pixie]

Ahh sorry Skull Commander just noticed your post is a link, didn't see it in Politics & Current Affairs but at least now you all have a countdown!

[Flash@TMB]

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[Pierre Von Mondragon]

Wahey. I am still alive, I claim my mini black-hole-on-a-stick.

[soundian]

Originally Posted by lepeep

I am doubting that we will know if it does destroy the world, kind of "doesn't matter"...eh, the last thing you'll see is your finger getting slightly longer...then *piff*......nothing.

BUt...I don't think it's going to happen.

What is pissing me off, is the "fact" that scientists know that the "conditions" created are like the first "billions of a second" after the big bang.
How do they know that these conditions, in such a micro scale (protons colliding) will be the same as "the big bang"? - if no protons "existed" before the big bang, how can two protons colliding "replicate" such an event?...that just doesn't add up for me. (but....it's obviously a very massssssssive over simplification.) - ps, thoses S's are for the pedants out there... he he

To put it simply:
The reason there were no protons at that point was because the universe had too much energy for the constituent particles of protons to "stick" together. You can use the analogy of ice and steam if it helps, with ice being protons and steam being the "soup" of elementary particles.
The only way to force protons apart into their elementary particles is to shove them together at such high velocities that there is enough energy created when they "crash" to separate them out.

Black holes are "fuzzy", i.e. they emit energy .
Quantum black holes, like the ones they might create in the LHC, are incredibly tiny, much less mass than a proton iirc and since E=mc² they don't have a lot of energy .
Quantum black holes radiate so much energy compared to their mass that their lifetime is the merest fraction of a second.
To use another analogy, think of two spheres*. The smaller the sphere has the larger proportion of surface area to volume, i.e. it can radiate more of it's total energy than a bigger sphere. As the sphere gets smaller, the proportion of total energy emitted gets larger, so the "evaporation" process speeds up.

So, they're you go, nothing to worry about.
Unless every top brainy person in the last 100 years or so has got things incredibly wrong.

*surface area of sphere=4Πr²
volume of sphere=4/3Πr³